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Nanodegree Plus: Get hired within six months of graduating, or tuition refund

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Re: Nanodegree Plus: Get hired within six months of graduating, or tuition refund

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I'm really fond of Holberton's tuition scheme, where you pay 25% of your salary for two years after graduation. In this scheme, everyone is incentivized to help the student get a high paying job, so the school simply can't become a degree factory.

That makes sense for a full-time in-person school that costs a lot of money.

But Udacity's part-time remote program is $299 a month, https://www.udacity.com/nanodegrees/nd009 so charging by percentages is less worthwhile.

Re: Nanodegree Plus: Get hired within six months of graduating, or tuition refund

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post #4

"Udacity will help you find you a job (as defined in the program Terms and Conditions) at a partner company, land you a paying internship, or secure for you the opportunity to make money through Udacity’s global mentorship or freelancing programs. We will achieve this within six months of your graduation date, or refund your full tuition." Paying Iinternship or "freelancing programs" is a bit slippery. You freelanced…

Yeah. It is really saying "One of our partners will take you for something " without any real guarantee the results are in line with the expectation of the student. Then again, Udacity is really trying to be a Software Dev Technical School so that is par for the course imo.

secure for you the opportunity to make money through Udacity’s global mentorship or freelancing programs.

They don't even promise a partner will take you for something. They just promise an "opportunity to make money".

"Oh, you don't want to make an Android app for $10, well we gave you the opportunity. We're sad to see you passed on it"

Re: Nanodegree Plus: Get hired within six months of graduating, or tuition refund

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post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah. It is really saying "One of our partners will take you for something " without any real guarantee the results are in line with the expectation of the student. Then again, Udacity is really trying to be a Software Dev Technical School so that is par for the course imo.

secure for you the opportunity to make money through Udacity’s global mentorship or freelancing programs. They don't even promise a partner will take you for something. They just promise an "opportunity to make money". "Oh, you don't want to make an Android app for $10, well we gave you the opportunity. We're sad to see you passed on it"

> "Oh, you don't want to make an Android app for $10, well we gave you the opportunity. We're sad to see you passed on it"

That is what I meant by something.

Re: Nanodegree Plus: Get hired within six months of graduating, or tuition refund

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post #11
post #9

I'm really fond of Holberton's tuition scheme, where you pay 25% of your salary for two years after graduation. In this scheme, everyone is incentivized to help the student get a high paying job, so the school simply can't become a degree factory.

That makes sense for a full-time in-person school that costs a lot of money. But Udacity's part-time remote program is $299 a month, https://www.udacity.com/nanodegrees/nd009 so charging by percentages is less worthwhile.

You could charge something like a quarter percent for only a few months as a placement fee, and keep the standard $200 rate for all classes, with placement services as an option. While that's not as attractive as a full refund, it does avoid the issues pointed out in some of the other comments (like counting a freelance job as employment).

Re: Nanodegree Plus: Get hired within six months of graduating, or tuition refund

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post #4

"Udacity will help you find you a job (as defined in the program Terms and Conditions) at a partner company, land you a paying internship, or secure for you the opportunity to make money through Udacity’s global mentorship or freelancing programs. We will achieve this within six months of your graduation date, or refund your full tuition." Paying Iinternship or "freelancing programs" is a bit slippery. You freelanced…

Yeah. It is really saying "One of our partners will take you for something " without any real guarantee the results are in line with the expectation of the student. Then again, Udacity is really trying to be a Software Dev Technical School so that is par for the course imo.

Well it does set a minimum

> Further, in your new job Udacity guarantees that your gross income from such job will be in excess of your cost of tuition (pre-tax) within a 3 month period following job placement

But given you are paying about 3600 for the degree, that comes out to making minimum wage.

Re: Nanodegree Plus: Get hired within six months of graduating, or tuition refund

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post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah. It is really saying "One of our partners will take you for something " without any real guarantee the results are in line with the expectation of the student. Then again, Udacity is really trying to be a Software Dev Technical School so that is par for the course imo.

secure for you the opportunity to make money through Udacity’s global mentorship or freelancing programs. They don't even promise a partner will take you for something. They just promise an "opportunity to make money". "Oh, you don't want to make an Android app for $10, well we gave you the opportunity. We're sad to see you passed on it"

They do have minimum income, though it's quite low.

"Further, in your new job Udacity guarantees that your gross income from such job will be in excess of your cost of tuition (pre-tax) within a 3 month period following job placement."

Re: Nanodegree Plus: Get hired within six months of graduating, or tuition refund

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I graduated from their front-end developer nano degree program last year when it first launched. It doesn't feel great that none of these new "guarantees" applies to me.

Did it result in a decent job (if that was your goal)?

Re: Nanodegree Plus: Get hired within six months of graduating, or tuition refund

#20

Aaand - ignoring all the other insightful comments: It's one of those... --- I am an international student. Why is this restricted to the US? We hope to expand this program in the near future to other countries. Stay tuned!

They didn't answer the question, but I'd guess it's because it rests on their relationship with "partner" organisations. If those companies largely reside in the US, and if most students can't be expected to get a working visa in the US, then Udacity could find themselves paying for a lot of students' courses themselves, rather than having some "employer of last resort."
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