Project Rider – A C# IDE

Post by realharo » Wed, Jan 13, 2016, 3:10 PM UTC

rhodysurf wrote: post #104

realharo wrote: post #28

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Last time I used VS, I was surprised by the lack of some pretty basic features, such as Ctrl+click navigation (there is a plugin for that though), or a quick way to show formatted function documentation in a popup.

To show the documentation you literally just hover over a symbol

Post by Pxtl » Wed, Jan 13, 2016, 3:14 PM UTC

taspeotis wrote: post #33

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I dev on C# full time and also use Eclipse for java, and while vs is more professional-looking and featureful, the darn thing feels disgustingly single-threaded. The amount of ways to cause a stop-the-world lock-up is impressive. Vs2015 somewhat improved on its predecessors on this front, but it still has plenty of ways where it drags.

If you launch Visual Studio with `devenv.exe /safemode` which "prevents all third-party VSPackages from loading when Visual Studio starts" [1] you will find Visual Studio runs extremely quickly. It's stuff like ReSharper that slows it down. [1] https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms241278.aspx

Post by arethuza » Wed, Jan 13, 2016, 3:20 PM UTC

louthy wrote: post #92

sjclemmy wrote: post #71

This will have to be very good to be better than Visual Studio on Windows. I've used Visual Studio 2013 a fair bit in the last 12 months and it's a fantastic IDE. Microsoft are also developing their cross-platform offering Visual Studio Code, which is a nice text editor and I imagine it's just going to get better. I am using another JetBrains product, PHPStorm, on the Mac at the moment for some Front End Dev, which i…

> This will have to be very good to be better than Visual Studio on Windows. Really? I feel MS has really dropped the ball with VS. VS2013 was OK, but not great. A lot of random lock-ups in really annoying situations where you can't even fathom why (like opening a text file). VS 2015 is actually awful - it wasn't until Update 1 that typing this (below) in C# would pop-up an on screen exception dialog: class Foo : Bar…

Post by nikanj » Wed, Jan 13, 2016, 3:25 PM UTC

72deluxe wrote: post #95

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Unless the user can run a Windows VM without too much pain. I currently do most of my development in Visual Studio, via a Parallels VM on my MBP and am very happy with this setup. And for those wondering, the performance is surprisingly fine. I rarely notice that I'm working inside of a VM.

Out of interest, what disc are you using? SSD? I use a 2012 MBP i7 which was top of the line and notice slowness on its abysmal 5200RPM hard disk, even worse in Parallels Windows 7. At work I am using a Mac Pro 2008 with a WDC WD20EFRX-68AX9N0 in it (no idea of rotational rate, thanks Western Digital!!) and VMware is slow. Perhaps it is the antivirus I am forced to run inside Windows in a VM but it isn't snappy.

Post by alkonaut » Wed, Jan 13, 2016, 3:27 PM UTC

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I think the reason most people don't notice this is because developers on average have better computer hardware. Anyone who uses a laptop for on-the-go development on the other hand gets hit with these problems front-on. In college, I assumed everyone loved Visual Studios just because everyone was told to use it and there were, in reality, no other options. I hope that in the next few years, with the open sourcing of…

Any IDE that wants to challenge VS has an uphill battle in what concerns: - GUI editors - Parallel code debugging - GPU debugging - Enterprise code navigation - Edit-and-continue - Debugging native code generated for .NET applications - Mixed language debugging - GUI Profiler - Code Profiler Just a few items on the top of my head.