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Project Rider – A C# IDE

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Re: Project Rider – A C# IDE

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Post by sjclemmy »

This will have to be very good to be better than Visual Studio on Windows. I've used Visual Studio 2013 a fair bit in the last 12 months and it's a fantastic IDE. Microsoft are also developing their cross-platform offering Visual Studio Code, which is a nice text editor and I imagine it's just going to get better.

I am using another JetBrains product, PHPStorm, on the Mac at the moment for some Front End Dev, which is another IntelliJ based product. This has recently become quite sluggish and is starting to annoy me, after all, who wants the tool to get in the way of the work. I hope this gets sorted soon.

That said, I think JetBrains do a great job focusing on develop tools and I've used their dotPeek product to untangle the mess left by the absence of release control in a recent contract.

Re: Project Rider – A C# IDE

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Post by sangnoir »

tobz wrote: post #67

How long is it before JetBrains comes out with something more like Eclipse or Atom? You have IntelliJ, PyCharm, RubyMine, CLion, and now this. That's excluding plugins for other IDEs. All of their IDEs basically look and feel the same. It seems like a ripe opportunity to make a single, extensible IDE that isn't quite so ugly as Eclipse but isn't quite so barebones as Atom that then just has different chunks of suppor…

> You have IntelliJ, PyCharm, RubyMine, CLion, and now this. That's excluding plugins for other IDEs

To my knowledge, IntelliJ + plugin = any other JetBrains IDE. It's a solved problem already: if you want multi-language support, purchase IntelliJ. However, the plugins lag behind the standalone IDEs on features.

Re: Project Rider – A C# IDE

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Post by sangnoir »

sjclemmy wrote: post #71

This will have to be very good to be better than Visual Studio on Windows. I've used Visual Studio 2013 a fair bit in the last 12 months and it's a fantastic IDE. Microsoft are also developing their cross-platform offering Visual Studio Code, which is a nice text editor and I imagine it's just going to get better. I am using another JetBrains product, PHPStorm, on the Mac at the moment for some Front End Dev, which i…

> This will have to be very good to be better than Visual Studio on Windows.

You might as well be right: on OS X, Linux or *BSD however, it will be a completely different story due to the absence of Visual Studio.

Re: Project Rider – A C# IDE

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Post by thegenius2000 »

0xFFC wrote: post #47

A full Go ide would have been better in my experience.

You should also consider vim (w. the vim-go plugin) if you're on Unix.

It's well-written, and along with several other vim plugins and a decent configuration, it's miles ahead of any IDE (except emacs, not starting an editor war here).

Read here, http://farazdagi.com/blog/2015/vim-as-golang-ide/

Re: Project Rider – A C# IDE

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Post by UnoriginalGuy »

topbanana wrote: post #65
UnoriginalGuy wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What? Resharper is barely useful in Visual Studio 2015, and the memory leak/lag/slowness/issues are tiresome. If I hadn't spent so much on Resharper I'd uninstall it.

Works well for me

I have 16GB of RAM on my work machine and if I leave two instances of Visual Studio running the machine saturates after half a day.

Plus even they admit to the slowness[0]. But regardless I bet a certain core demographic of Resharper users are never going to admit to a problems (slowness/lag/slow startup/RAM usage/memory leaks).

[0] https://confluence.jetbrains.com/pages/viewpage.action?pageI...

Re: Project Rider – A C# IDE

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Post by Vendan »

jen20 wrote: post #51
0xFFC wrote: post #47

A full Go ide would have been better in my experience.

I switch between Emacs and IntelliJ's Go plugin for working on Terraform - the Go plugin is very complete, and as far as I'm aware the only working visual debugger for Go.

Check out LiteIDE, it's got visual debugging support as well.

Re: Project Rider – A C# IDE

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Post by edgarjcfn »

sphildreth wrote: post #59

I wonder how this compares to "Visual Studio Code" which is also cross-platform and MIT licensed: https://code.visualstudio.com/

I wonder how is it that people don't know about this fantastic IDE and are talking about Project Rider as if it's the first non-windows C# IDE.

Re: Project Rider – A C# IDE

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Post by kohanz »

sangnoir wrote: post #73
sjclemmy wrote: post #71

This will have to be very good to be better than Visual Studio on Windows. I've used Visual Studio 2013 a fair bit in the last 12 months and it's a fantastic IDE. Microsoft are also developing their cross-platform offering Visual Studio Code, which is a nice text editor and I imagine it's just going to get better. I am using another JetBrains product, PHPStorm, on the Mac at the moment for some Front End Dev, which i…

> This will have to be very good to be better than Visual Studio on Windows . You might as well be right: on OS X, Linux or *BSD however, it will be a completely different story due to the absence of Visual Studio.

Unless the user can run a Windows VM without too much pain. I currently do most of my development in Visual Studio, via a Parallels VM on my MBP and am very happy with this setup. And for those wondering, the performance is surprisingly fine. I rarely notice that I'm working inside of a VM.

Re: Project Rider – A C# IDE

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Post by sangnoir »

stupidcar wrote: post #43
realharo wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

CLion isn't all that great. It still has major issues analyzing a lot of C++ code (false positive red squiggly lines everywhere), almost 1.5 years after the initial annoncement. Although C# should be a much easier language to deal with, so this one might turn out better.

I'd bet the main problem is that they don't use C++ much themselves internally. Trying to develop software that you don't use in anger yourself is usually a recipe for bugs and missed requirements.

> I'd bet the main problem is that they don't use C++ much themselves internally

I doubt they use all the languages their IDEs support internally - there's just too many! (Java, PHP, Javascript, Python, C/C++, Ruby, Obj-C). The problems are probably because CLion is one of their least mature products.

Re: Project Rider – A C# IDE

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Post by jen20 »

mariusmg wrote: post #46
admnor wrote: post #15

Finally, a proper C# IDE on not-Windows. I've been working with ASP.NET 5 on Linux for the last year and Sublime, Atom, VSCode, etc. are all painful. Sublime is surely dead, and anything based on Electron kills my 2-core CPU and my battery. I was in the talk here at NDC London where they demo'd Rider, and I can confirm that it is very fast and he showed the Mac process view and it was barely hitting the CPU, even wit…

MonoDevelop is cross platform and decent. "And when it's all running on .NET Core it should be even faster." The IDE is written in Java and obviously runs on the JVM.

The UI is in the JVM, the back end is hosted on Mono when on non-windows platforms at the moment.
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