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Project Rider – A C# IDE

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Re: Project Rider – A C# IDE

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Post by kmch »

taspeotis wrote: post #36
realharo wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

CLion isn't all that great. It still has major issues analyzing a lot of C++ code (false positive red squiggly lines everywhere), almost 1.5 years after the initial annoncement. Although C# should be a much easier language to deal with, so this one might turn out better.

ReSharper C++ (why they didn't call it RePlusPlus I'll never know) is also sorely lacking in basic functionality. Compared to opening a C# project with R#, opening a C++ project with R#++ and none of the refactoring keyboard shortcuts work ... Visual Studio just feels dead. (I love my ReSharper Ultimate license, and R#++ helps to fill in a lot of Visual Studio's blanks as far as C++ goes, but really it needs to spend…

You should try Visual Assist (http://wholetomato.com/) in case you haven't heard of it.

Re: Project Rider – A C# IDE

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Post by V-2 »

yoz-y wrote: post #31
dawkins wrote: post #9

People praise IntelliJ it a lot, but my experience with Android Studio and its slowness always reminds me that its writen in java. I have been developing with Monodevelop the last 4 years when I switched to mono/ubuntu and I don't see here nothing that it doesn't have already: cross platform, excellent refactoring support, multiple targets. Maybe its because of my particular use case but I even prefer it to Visual St…

I have had similar experience with Android Studio. I found very buggy and confusing since it constantly switches contexts and (seemingly) randomly re-shuffles the UI. (Building, debugging, running) I also found most of the pictograms thoroughly unhelpful. Nevertheless IntelliJ has a very good reputation so I suppose it is not the platform's fault.

Pictogram toolbars are an idiotic invention, but you can get rid of them easily. Android Studio is highly customizable.

It's not perfectly stable, but out of my experience (a bit dated now I admit) neither was Visual Studio. Eg. its infamous XAML designer is still haunting me in my dreams.

As far as bread and butter of an IDE goes, meaning navigation, refactoring etc. JetBrains' software, along with its derivatives (Android Studio is a fork), is superior to VS imho.

Then again it's a bit of apples vs. oranges here, VS is more heavy-weight and powerful, with its SQL integration and many many other features.

Re: Project Rider – A C# IDE

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Post by jinushaun »

This is exciting news. Ironically, it's almost unfathomable to imagine writing C# code in Visual Studios without having ReSharper installed. Glad to see ReSharper finally available cross platform!

Re: Project Rider – A C# IDE

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Post by UnoriginalGuy »

jinushaun wrote: post #63

This is exciting news. Ironically, it's almost unfathomable to imagine writing C# code in Visual Studios without having ReSharper installed. Glad to see ReSharper finally available cross platform!

What? Resharper is barely useful in Visual Studio 2015, and the memory leak/lag/slowness/issues are tiresome. If I hadn't spent so much on Resharper I'd uninstall it.

Re: Project Rider – A C# IDE

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Post by topbanana »

UnoriginalGuy wrote: post #64
jinushaun wrote: post #63

This is exciting news. Ironically, it's almost unfathomable to imagine writing C# code in Visual Studios without having ReSharper installed. Glad to see ReSharper finally available cross platform!

What? Resharper is barely useful in Visual Studio 2015, and the memory leak/lag/slowness/issues are tiresome. If I hadn't spent so much on Resharper I'd uninstall it.

Works well for me

Re: Project Rider – A C# IDE

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Post by tobz »

How long is it before JetBrains comes out with something more like Eclipse or Atom?

You have IntelliJ, PyCharm, RubyMine, CLion, and now this. That's excluding plugins for other IDEs. All of their IDEs basically look and feel the same.

It seems like a ripe opportunity to make a single, extensible IDE that isn't quite so ugly as Eclipse but isn't quite so barebones as Atom that then just has different chunks of support for specific languages, potentially with individual licensing, etc.

Maybe that doesn't further their business goals but it sure would be nice to get the IntelliJ treatment whether I'm writing Java, Ruby, Python, C#, C++, etc.

Re: Project Rider – A C# IDE

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Post by edgarjcfn »

rplnt wrote: post #3
cromantin wrote: post #2

Finally. It would be great if Unity3D add official plugin to this IDE. For now Consulo[1] is competent alternative (build by some cool dude using IntelliJ Community Edition). 1: https://github.com/consulo

I believe Unity3D is working on some sort of common way for any ide/debugger to be plugged in. With that and the deals they have with MS I don't see them adding support for another IDE.

I do all my Unity3D development on a Mac with VSCode[1] and it's really powerful. Includes step-debugging out-of-the box, and it's free.

[1]https://code.visualstudio.com/

Re: Project Rider – A C# IDE

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Post by geodel »

dawkins wrote: post #9

People praise IntelliJ it a lot, but my experience with Android Studio and its slowness always reminds me that its writen in java. I have been developing with Monodevelop the last 4 years when I switched to mono/ubuntu and I don't see here nothing that it doesn't have already: cross platform, excellent refactoring support, multiple targets. Maybe its because of my particular use case but I even prefer it to Visual St…

You are right. I run IntelliJ on top end MBP though it is mostly reasonable it never forgets to remind me that it is written in Java. In my past I have used far less capable machines and the less said about Java IDEs the better. I admit that very few developers complained about their Java based IDEs / GUIs where ever I worked. I guess It must be due to very low expectation from their tools.

Re: Project Rider – A C# IDE

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Post by jamespo »

tobz wrote: post #67

How long is it before JetBrains comes out with something more like Eclipse or Atom? You have IntelliJ, PyCharm, RubyMine, CLion, and now this. That's excluding plugins for other IDEs. All of their IDEs basically look and feel the same. It seems like a ripe opportunity to make a single, extensible IDE that isn't quite so ugly as Eclipse but isn't quite so barebones as Atom that then just has different chunks of suppor…

IntelliJ Ultimate does this (not including c++)
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