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Re: Peach’s Most Interesting Feature, the Hybrid Command Line

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Post by tudorw » Tue, Jan 12, 2016, 9:43 PM UTC

Gys wrote: post #52

tudorw wrote: post #46

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I've worked with many first time users over 20 years and have never witnessed any of them intuitively understand either CLI or GUI, both are artificial, contrived and unique and need to be learnt. I don't essentially see one as a better choice than the other for a new user, maybe in some ways the CLI has less abstractions which can be a help, I've witnessed much confusion over the many many ways you can enact the sam…

I think 'intuitively' actually means less having to think about all possible options at any moment or stage of an action. If its clear how to accomplish the next step, it is considered intuitive. GUI are considered more intuitively because options in general are visible as menus and buttons. On a CLI adding parameters to a command can get complicated if you are halfway and forgot if it was '-l' or '-L'.

Intuitive is defined as without conscious reasoning, so no, Menus and Buttons do need you to think, take chrome, up there, top right, for starters I need to click on three horizontal lines then;

New tab New window

What could anyone infer from the terms 'tab' or 'window' without some prior knowledge, these interfaces succeed because the cost of failure is low and the level of feedback and reward is high, so we persevere, an intuitive interface would require a whole new conceptual model of how we interact with data. No, I don't have one to show you, I am fairly certain that existing approaches will appear draconian to our children's children though :)

Re: Peach’s Most Interesting Feature, the Hybrid Command Line

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Post by numair » Wed, Jan 13, 2016, 2:18 AM UTC

dang wrote: post #45

numair wrote: post #18

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Your response is incredibly off-base. The author of the BGR article is pretty spot-on in his analysis. If you look at the author's previous articles, he has been critical, but accurate. In any case, even if his 16 years of experience in the mobile industry (I looked him up) don't allow him to make accurate one-day analyses, a different viewpoint is beneficial to everyone's thought process. There is absolutely nothing…

pbreit has a point. Dismissing something as a "turkey" after just one day is unduly harsh, and to call that "bringing up critical viewpoints" is euphemistic.

If that were the only comment the author made, sure. He did a pretty good job of defending his view, I think, with lots of citations etc. It is a viewpoint -- it's the opposite of looking at something and saying, "ooh, this is new and cool!" Now, it's probably more productive in most circumstances to have an open mind, but that is a matter of preference. Personally, I like to have my childlike enthusiasm for new things balanced out by the voices of other, more cynical people.

Re: Peach’s Most Interesting Feature, the Hybrid Command Line

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Post by skciva » Thu, Jan 14, 2016, 9:08 PM UTC

kevin_thibedeau wrote: post #24

skciva wrote: post #17

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Wasn't Meerkat done in by the fact that Twitter launched Periscope around the same time? Twitter cut Meerkat's access to the API at SXSW (mid March), and published Periscope to the iOS App Store in late March. On top of this, I've noticed some celebrities I follow on Twitter using Periscope and advertising it to their feeds, which I wouldn't be surprised to find out is fueled by some form of payment from Twitter. I c…

Why does anyone follow celebrities on Twitter? Does it add any value to your life?

A couple days late on this, but to answer your question:

"Celebrities" I follow might be better described as a mix of creatives (musicians, comedians, actors/actresses) and intellectuals (members of the tech, math, and science communities) all with varying degrees of fame and success.

Primarily I follow people I don't know personally on twitter for interesting content. Usually I initially follow them because I am a fan of their work in the medium they are known for.

Some of these people share articles, some hold deep conversations with others on topics I find intriguing, and some just chit chat with followers. There are plenty of people I admire for their work who I do not follow because they just don't post interesting content.

For me, it provides a nice balance on enlightenment and entertainment.