Freenode sucks
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Freenode sucks
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#2" and I hope you realize that you just completely pissed off one of the most well known and respected people in the whole open source community"
Funny thing about respect, is it takes a while to build up and can be lost in a heartbeat.
edit: what's interesting is how respectful the freenode admin was throughout this whole transcript. If anything, kudos to freenode.
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#3I'm particularly fond of this exchange in the comments:
3ricj: It's still just a damn IRC nick. register a new one and ask an channel op to give you rights to the channel. Problem solved. Don't abuse volunteer support people due to inflated self-importance. It's tacky.
Bram: If you'd spent the two minutes necessary to read the conversation you'd know there is no fucking channel op, because I was the only one. Stop being an ass.
Unfortunately Bram, there is only one person being an ass...
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#4" and I hope you realize that you just completely pissed off one of the most well known and respected people in the whole open source community" Funny thing about respect, is it takes a while to build up and can be lost in a heartbeat. edit: what's interesting is how respectful the freenode admin was throughout this whole transcript. If anything, kudos to freenode.
While it's true that Cohen acts like a bit of a douche, I think his point is rock solid. 60 days expiration for lack of use is ridiculous. And the admin he spoke to may have stayed polite, but his glib refusal to do anything to solve an obvious problem, while endlessly reciting some BS rules out of some FAQ somewhere as if they were unbreakable laws of physics, is a terribly attitude and reminds me of the most disinterested, cynical bureaucrats I've ever had to deal with.
And for what it's worth, I respect Cohen no less for what he said. I respect him for his deeds, not for his kind and humble soul. If reading a few lines of IRC logs, that he himself posted, is enough to make him lose your respect - I would question whether that respect really meant anything in the first place.
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#5Although I've only seen a part of a presumably actual conversation (haven't tried to confirm it using other sources) I do find the attitude shown by Bram Cohen to be something I would not have expected from 'one of the most well known and respected people in the whole open source community'. It actually saddens me to see an open source programming 'role model' of mine behave like a spoiled child
I do understand the frustration surrounding the policies, yet I also understand Freenode which is offering a free, gratis service. A more humble approach would probably have yielded a quicker result and IMHO was more appropriate.
ps: If Bram Cohen is not really happy with Freenode, he, as 'one of the most well known and respected people in the whole open source community' probably has other options to create a #bittorrent irc channel according his wishes.
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#6Interesting.... logs into Freenode Yay! My nick is still registered. I don't think I've logged in for over a year.
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#7I have to say Freenode came of rather well here. Bram... not so much. :P
and I hope you realize that you just completely pissed off one of the most well known and respected people in the whole open source community
Sounds like he's possibly completely pissed off a large portion of the Open Source community :)
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#8Asperger and 'being a meanie' can sometimes be confused. I know Bram's diagnosis isn't official but it seems obvious to most that meet him that's he's a little different.
Edit: Okay I just RTFA and Bram does seem very douchy. If I was the admin I would have handed his ass to him 1/4 of the way through the conversation when he threw his first insult.
And I would have invited him to make a stink in public ... just spell my name right.
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#96 months? That's pretty lame, and I'd be a bit peeved as well. Having to go through that entire process of re-registering, etc, just to get an account back and admin'ing that group? I'm glad this isn't a global policy on email addresses or website registrations!
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#10A better title would have been 'Bram Cohen loses Freenode nick, complains' as generally articles here take the title from the link where possible and try not to editorialize when it isn't.
...but it would probably be better still if Internet drama was kept as far away from HN as possible.