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Peach’s Most Interesting Feature, the Hybrid Command Line

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Re: Peach’s Most Interesting Feature, the Hybrid Command Line

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Post by bgraves »

I've been using peach for a few days (@bgraves, add me!)

I'm liking it.

1. It's different and disconnected. I have FB/IG for personal/family stuff, LinkedIN/Twitter for biz stuff. Peach is more fun and more 'creative'.

2. The magic words are a gimmick for sure. But it's a _fun_ gimmick.

3. Kinda related to #1 it's a smaller 'community' now and folks are just trying stuff out.

Overall I've found my self posting a quick update on Peach over the past 48 hours more than I have on "traditional" social media (can we call Twitter, et al. traditional now?) over the past 2 weeks.

Yes, there's a novelty factor. And maybe that's it and it will die on the Vine.

Re: Peach’s Most Interesting Feature, the Hybrid Command Line

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Post by noobermin »

rcthompson wrote: post #34
munificent wrote: post #20

The idea that command-line applications could have some sort of Renaissance on devices which do not have a keyboard seems completely insane to me.

There's no fundamental reason that command line applications can't work with input from voice recognition.

On a old slashdot flame thread on GUI vs. CLI back in the day, I pointed out that calling CLIs less familiar and less intuitive when compared to GUIs wasn't fair because CLI's do have a very familiar, non-virtual analog: speech. CLI, of course, it just a very specific and rigid language, just like programming languages.

Re: Peach’s Most Interesting Feature, the Hybrid Command Line

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Post by ksar »

lesdeuxmagots wrote: post #10

This feels incredibly Silicon Valley centric. Hybrid Command Line only serves to increase friction in the messaging process, particularly for normal users. Press reviews have already noted that there is a learning curve, that the experience is better with a smaller friends list. This sounds like it is set up to fail to get broader adoption.

Agreed. The Slack-esque hybrid command line is a bit of a bait and switch to get the tech community interested. The average user by no means is going to memorize more than 1-2 commands, if any at all. I barely use anything other than Giphy on Slack. At the end of the day content and network effects will determine whether it survives.

Re: Peach’s Most Interesting Feature, the Hybrid Command Line

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Post by dang »

numair wrote: post #18
pbreit wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you're gonna read stuff like that, understand that it probably makes you dumber. At least, posting it makes you look dumber. Calling something a "turkey" after a day is as dumb as calling it an "x killer". Things like WhatsApp, Facebook, Instagram, etc take years to become successful.

Your response is incredibly off-base. The author of the BGR article is pretty spot-on in his analysis. If you look at the author's previous articles, he has been critical, but accurate. In any case, even if his 16 years of experience in the mobile industry (I looked him up) don't allow him to make accurate one-day analyses, a different viewpoint is beneficial to everyone's thought process. There is absolutely nothing…

pbreit has a point. Dismissing something as a "turkey" after just one day is unduly harsh, and to call that "bringing up critical viewpoints" is euphemistic.

Re: Peach’s Most Interesting Feature, the Hybrid Command Line

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Post by tudorw »

noobermin wrote: post #43
rcthompson wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's no fundamental reason that command line applications can't work with input from voice recognition.

On a old slashdot flame thread on GUI vs. CLI back in the day, I pointed out that calling CLIs less familiar and less intuitive when compared to GUIs wasn't fair because CLI's do have a very familiar, non-virtual analog: speech. CLI, of course, it just a very specific and rigid language, just like programming languages.

I've worked with many first time users over 20 years and have never witnessed any of them intuitively understand either CLI or GUI, both are artificial, contrived and unique and need to be learnt. I don't essentially see one as a better choice than the other for a new user, maybe in some ways the CLI has less abstractions which can be a help, I've witnessed much confusion over the many many ways you can enact the same result using different methods in a GUI.

Re: Peach’s Most Interesting Feature, the Hybrid Command Line

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Post by kovacs »

ksar wrote: post #44
lesdeuxmagots wrote: post #10

This feels incredibly Silicon Valley centric. Hybrid Command Line only serves to increase friction in the messaging process, particularly for normal users. Press reviews have already noted that there is a learning curve, that the experience is better with a smaller friends list. This sounds like it is set up to fail to get broader adoption.

Agreed. The Slack-esque hybrid command line is a bit of a bait and switch to get the tech community interested. The average user by no means is going to memorize more than 1-2 commands, if any at all. I barely use anything other than Giphy on Slack. At the end of the day content and network effects will determine whether it survives.

^^ this. The commands are great but why not bring up a dialog of the commands represented by an icon that you tap to use the given command? Much better discoverability than having to type "help" and get popped out to a web page with the list.

Re: Peach’s Most Interesting Feature, the Hybrid Command Line

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Post by bryanrasmussen »

rcthompson wrote: post #34
munificent wrote: post #20

The idea that command-line applications could have some sort of Renaissance on devices which do not have a keyboard seems completely insane to me.

There's no fundamental reason that command line applications can't work with input from voice recognition.

maybe no fundamental reason but the practical reason that voice recognition still isn't that good.

Re: Peach’s Most Interesting Feature, the Hybrid Command Line

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Post by xedarius »

Peach is pretty neat all in, seems like they've made social 'fun', something that's been lost by the current crop of social media companies.

With regards to the command line, it's really clever, it frees up so much UI space, the app appears uncluttered and inviting. If anyone has been near a Bloomberg terminal you'll know this is how Bloomberh has worked for many years, and the users love it.

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