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Re: David Bowie Has Died

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Post by rplnt »

blfr wrote: post #117
dluan wrote: post #90

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Really? What about the anti-Spotify's like HypeMachine? Fiercely independent, trendspotting/trendsetting, and sustainable. It's a very valuable service to lots of folks. IMO Spotify/Rdio/Pandora could only ever hope to go the advertising route over subscription because they couldn't crack the much harder distribution problem (e.g. the HypeM's, SoundCloud's, Drip's, etc).

Spotify stopped working on Ubuntu a while back so I can't check but I'm pretty sure there is a HypeMachine app for Spotify. So you can get recommendations from them within the Spotify client. EDIT: it stopped working after 15.04. Something with an old version libgcrypt. I didn't care enough to debug it.

There are alternative clients (pro-only).

Re: David Bowie Has Died

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Post by reitanqild »

will_pseudonym wrote: post #128
philh wrote: post #121

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What do you mean by 'religion', and why does it matter whether sports is a religion under this meaning? Here are some differences: sports fans don't think that their team is capable of supernatural feats. I don't think I've ever seen a fan of one team try to convince a fan of another to change allegiance, or proselytizing on a street corner. Sports fans know that the teams of the other fans exist, while religious peo…

I mean that it is a shared obsession that can intensify our better and worse natures, but the worse outweighs the better.

FWIW a couple of the absolute worst periods has been under decidedly atheist regimes (Communist Russia etc + French revolution).

Then again I think atheism is a religion too.

Re: David Bowie Has Died

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Post by dbattaglia »

gbog wrote: post #85

Do we all have to share this culture of mourning and condoleances? I have listened to some music made by David Bowie, but I kind of feel not that much about his death. Am I heartless? Or just honest? I mean, listening to some guy's music do not make it a close relative, is it? (If so, then well we all have too many "close relatives" for this mean anything anymore). Or should I just shut up and let the people weep unt…

> Also, I fail to see what this is doing on HN, sorry.

It's currently #1 on HN. Think about that. Just because you don't care about Bowies death doesn't mean it's not important to a lot of people on here. There's a ton of articles (especially sociology and science focused) that I wouldn't think belong here but they're interesting and I'm glad people post them.

Re: David Bowie Has Died

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Post by philh »

reitanqild wrote: post #140
philh wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you mean by 'religion', and why does it matter whether sports is a religion under this meaning? Here are some differences: sports fans don't think that their team is capable of supernatural feats. I don't think I've ever seen a fan of one team try to convince a fan of another to change allegiance, or proselytizing on a street corner. Sports fans know that the teams of the other fans exist, while religious peo…

> Here are some differences: sports fans don't think that their team is capable of supernatural feats. I don't think I've ever seen a fan of one team try to convince a fan of another to change allegiance, or proselytizing on a street corner. thinking that something is capable of supernatural feats is not required for something to become a religion. Quite on the contrary I present you exhibit A: "forum atheists", non-…

> thinking that something is capable of supernatural feats is not required for something to become a religion.

I basically agree, but I think the concept of "religion" invokes a lot of correlated things, and belief in the supernatural is one of the main ones. I expect most religions to differ from the 'prototypical' religion in a few ways, but I think sports differs in lots of ways.

(edit: or perhaps better, "beliefs about the supernatural". Religions say something specific. Atheists believe something specific. Sports teams make no claims one way or the other.)

> non-believers that believe so strongly in the non-existence of anything they haven't personally seen that they will hijack any thread that is remotely near using any religious word.

This seems like another example. I've seen that behavior from atheists and from religious people. I haven't seen it from sports fans.

People who dislike sports, on the other hand...

Re: David Bowie Has Died

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Post by ianwalter »

pearjuice wrote: post #119
exodust wrote: post #71

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"Unfortunate"... ? When a stone hits your windshield and causes a small crack, that's unfortunate.

How is dying not unfortunate? You have an exact 50/50 chance of making the next day. So a death is unfortunate, as you might as well have lived another day.

Really? An EXACT 50/50 chance?!

Re: David Bowie Has Died

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Post by m_mueller »

cageface wrote: post #56
bootload wrote: post #52

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"If anything labels are more important than ever and music sales are driven by the kind of marketing campaigns that only big records labels can afford." That's what record companies would like you to think. Counter-example, Milk Records, Melbourne. It's might be a record company but it looks so much like a startup. - http://messandnoise.com/features/4666617 - http://diymag.com/2015/03/23/courtney-barnett-its-like-tur…

I've been traveling all over the world and all I hear everywhere I go is crap American top 40 pop music. Like I said there's a ton of interesting stuff going on outside their purview but they control the conversation right now.

Most larger Asian countries have quite their own music market. But everywhere else I think it's true what you write.

Re: David Bowie Has Died

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Post by avolcano »

rmason wrote: post #13

There used to be a show on American TV Saturday night called the Midnight Special. In 1973 they turned the entire show over to David Bowie who did a special from London. It was hosted at a seminal rock palace called the Marquee Club. I remember it as one of the best hours of rock on television. Among the artists he invited to perform with him was Marianne Faithful. It made such a deep impression on me that when I vis…

the full recording survives in mixed quality, but his performance of I Got You Babe with Marianne is relatively-well preserved. great hidden gem in his back catalogue :)

https://youtu.be/EeBTz8n0vzw?t=2085

Re: David Bowie Has Died

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Post by philh »

will_pseudonym wrote: post #128
philh wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you mean by 'religion', and why does it matter whether sports is a religion under this meaning? Here are some differences: sports fans don't think that their team is capable of supernatural feats. I don't think I've ever seen a fan of one team try to convince a fan of another to change allegiance, or proselytizing on a street corner. Sports fans know that the teams of the other fans exist, while religious peo…

I mean that it is a shared obsession that can intensify our better and worse natures, but the worse outweighs the better.

In that case, I think I could make a compelling argument that gangster rap is more of a religion than the Amish faith.

Re: David Bowie Has Died

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Post by return0 »

gbog wrote: post #85

Do we all have to share this culture of mourning and condoleances? I have listened to some music made by David Bowie, but I kind of feel not that much about his death. Am I heartless? Or just honest? I mean, listening to some guy's music do not make it a close relative, is it? (If so, then well we all have too many "close relatives" for this mean anything anymore). Or should I just shut up and let the people weep unt…

> Am I heartless?

Other people may remember him as a soundtrack to important bits of their lives. And he was a major music hacker. You are not supposed to care or weep or anything ; in fact it's an excuse to celebrate his music today (thanks David). Does it bother you that some other people care?

Yes that was a heartless comment.

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