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Re: David Bowie Has Died

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Post by eropple »

k-mcgrady wrote: post #99
apatters wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For every one of those decades I could name several rock bands who were commercially successful and whose music also represented a major, youth-oriented cultural movement which challenged the status quo. I am hard pressed to name a single band like that which started recording in the 21st century. Interpret it as you will but I think he has a point that the stuff that gets into the top 40, certainly within the rock g…

>> "For every one of those decades I could name several rock bands who were commercially successful and whose music also represented a major, youth-oriented cultural movement which challenged the status quo." Take a look at some of the big EDM acts. It may not be your thing (and it's not really mine) but it's undeniable that acts like Swedish House Mafia and Avicii changed youth culture. If you take a listen to popul…

Yup. And in terms of politics, there are a pretty decent selection of young rap and hip-hop artists (similarly--with rare exceptions, not my thing either) who are speaking to the concerns of an unheard segment of the population in the United States. Limiting this to "rock" cuts out a lot of people, both in the U.S. and out.

Re: David Bowie Has Died

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Post by Angostura »

gbog wrote: post #85

Do we all have to share this culture of mourning and condoleances? I have listened to some music made by David Bowie, but I kind of feel not that much about his death. Am I heartless? Or just honest? I mean, listening to some guy's music do not make it a close relative, is it? (If so, then well we all have too many "close relatives" for this mean anything anymore). Or should I just shut up and let the people weep unt…

> Am I heartless? Or just honest?

No, Yes. You just don't happen to feel a close connection to this particular person who has died. That doesn't mean that other people here aren't being similarly honest and do feel a connection.

Re: David Bowie Has Died

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Post by Shivetya »

and here I just got down watching him as Tesla from the movie The Prestige; a very good movie about old time stage magicians starring people you would not expect let alone Bowie

Re: David Bowie Has Died

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Post by ycosynot »

gbog wrote: post #85

Do we all have to share this culture of mourning and condoleances? I have listened to some music made by David Bowie, but I kind of feel not that much about his death. Am I heartless? Or just honest? I mean, listening to some guy's music do not make it a close relative, is it? (If so, then well we all have too many "close relatives" for this mean anything anymore). Or should I just shut up and let the people weep unt…

God, you're more Asperger than me. When it's like that, I often download the last album, and I appreciate what the person gave to the world, whatever the way I feel, or don't feel. Some are more involved than others, but this is like an appreciation, and a global thanking to people who had notably a global impact. I just listened to the album and personally I'm actually in a 'good' mood, when I think he couldn't have ended it on a better note. Probably it's the artist in me speaking. It's like he died like a music

Re: David Bowie Has Died

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Post by paganel »

eropple wrote: post #54
agumonkey wrote: post #43

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As easy that joke was, I'm very often wondering about generations these days. I often feel this generation is really cheap. Now, surely most people feel this way about how the new one isn't worth their own, but really there were such iconic periods from the 50s to the 90s (in a westerner point of view) .. and this makes his leaving (among other peers who shaped the 70s) as powerful as hurting.

The "50s to the 90s"--which is so laughably general, that's four generations of music, if not more--had The Beatles and David Bowie and it also had The Monkees and Men Without Hats. We have the artists who it's funny to make fun of, like Bieber, and we have Jack White, we have Kanye West, we have Radiohead--and we had David Bowie, he's a modern artist today , have you listened to Blackstar, which openly tips its cap…

> we have Kanye West

For what it's worth Kanye West is still regarded like a sort of a joke in most of Europe, at least for people like me, who are over 30.

> and we have Jack White

At first I said to myself "who's that?", then I saw that he used to sing for the White Stripes. It's a so-and-so band, at least one of their songs got pretty popular among the football ultras, as did the Pet Shop Boys' "Go West!" back in the 90s.

> we have Radiohead

This is a late '90s - early 2000s band. Some say (at least I say) that they haven't been able to produce anything quite as good as the albums from that time in the last 10+ years. At the very least they are not as influential as they used to be back then.

Re: David Bowie Has Died

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Post by will_pseudonym »

pmontra wrote: post #98
brandnewlow wrote: post #87

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That's unfortunately what most people want to hear.

Most people want to hear what most people hear, to be able to talk about it and don't be cut off from their group of friends. Same thing about TV, movies, cloths, phones, books, games etc.

I'm a non-sports person, but I had a dawning realization earlier this week. We crave shared, tribal experiences, and that's why we seek out those shared events.

On the same topic, sports is a religion. If you disagree, or don't yet understand, please compare and contrast the two for me.

Re: David Bowie Has Died

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Post by tjl »

imagex wrote: post #14

The first and last time I was fortunate enough to see him live was The Glass Spider Tour https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glass_Spider_Tour which was performance art like I'd never experienced. Very glad managed to see Blackstar released, it's a fascinating, eerie album. The eponymous track was playing when I read the announcement he had passed. Long Live Bowie.

I saw him live for his Sound + Vision tour. That was pretty incredible. It truly was a blend of the two as he put together some great visuals to go with each of the songs. Plus, it was a "greatest hits" kind of tour so you got a wide range of songs. I still regularly listen to my Sound + Vision box set. Unfortunately, I don't have anything that can play the video from my CD-V now.

Re: David Bowie Has Died

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Post by agumonkey »

apatters wrote: post #83
eropple wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The "50s to the 90s"--which is so laughably general, that's four generations of music, if not more--had The Beatles and David Bowie and it also had The Monkees and Men Without Hats. We have the artists who it's funny to make fun of, like Bieber, and we have Jack White, we have Kanye West, we have Radiohead--and we had David Bowie, he's a modern artist today , have you listened to Blackstar, which openly tips its cap…

For every one of those decades I could name several rock bands who were commercially successful and whose music also represented a major, youth-oriented cultural movement which challenged the status quo. I am hard pressed to name a single band like that which started recording in the 21st century. Interpret it as you will but I think he has a point that the stuff that gets into the top 40, certainly within the rock g…

It also has to do with cultural and social boundaries. Every time a new "genre" came (no odd new music genre came since long ago AFAIK) it was felt. Every time a new medium (from radio to LP, Video Clips, CD) came it was felt. The odd part is that the web didn't recreate that. I feel this generation is diluted by too large market, too much technology, not enough structural pressure (limited places and market means competition, not always bad even with the drawbacks) and maybe the shadow of the past media hysteria around multimillion albums artists.
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