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Re: David Bowie Has Died

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Post by cageface »

agumonkey wrote: post #43
nunodonato wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

we still have Bieber.. stay strong! /s

As easy that joke was, I'm very often wondering about generations these days. I often feel this generation is really cheap. Now, surely most people feel this way about how the new one isn't worth their own, but really there were such iconic periods from the 50s to the 90s (in a westerner point of view) .. and this makes his leaving (among other peers who shaped the 70s) as powerful as hurting.

There's a ton of interesting, adventurous music being made by young people right now but you will never hear it because the music labels still dominate pop music and they've become more conservative than ever.

So don't judge the current generation by what you see in the top 40. Dig around on Bandcamp instead and be amazed.

Re: David Bowie Has Died

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Post by bootload »

cageface wrote: post #44
synthmeat wrote: post #21

I don’t even know why I would want to be on a label in a few years, because I don’t think it’s going to work by labels and by distribution systems in the same way. The absolute transformation of everything that we ever thought about music will take place within 10 years, and nothing is going to be able to stop it. I see absolutely no point in pretending that it’s not going to happen. I’m fully confident that copyrigh…

If anything labels are more important than ever and music sales are driven by the kind of marketing campaigns that only big records labels can afford. There's a ton of interesting music being made outside their domain but most people will never hear any of it.

"If anything labels are more important than ever and music sales are driven by the kind of marketing campaigns that only big records labels can afford."

That's what record companies would like you to think. Counter-example, Milk Records, Melbourne. It's might be a record company but it looks so much like a startup.

- http://messandnoise.com/features/4666617

- http://diymag.com/2015/03/23/courtney-barnett-its-like-turni...

Re: David Bowie Has Died

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Post by chrisdevereux »

agumonkey wrote: post #43
nunodonato wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

we still have Bieber.. stay strong! /s

As easy that joke was, I'm very often wondering about generations these days. I often feel this generation is really cheap. Now, surely most people feel this way about how the new one isn't worth their own, but really there were such iconic periods from the 50s to the 90s (in a westerner point of view) .. and this makes his leaving (among other peers who shaped the 70s) as powerful as hurting.

They had the Monkees back then. We have real artists now. Have things changed so much?

Re: David Bowie Has Died

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Post by eropple »

agumonkey wrote: post #43
nunodonato wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

we still have Bieber.. stay strong! /s

As easy that joke was, I'm very often wondering about generations these days. I often feel this generation is really cheap. Now, surely most people feel this way about how the new one isn't worth their own, but really there were such iconic periods from the 50s to the 90s (in a westerner point of view) .. and this makes his leaving (among other peers who shaped the 70s) as powerful as hurting.

The "50s to the 90s"--which is so laughably general, that's four generations of music, if not more--had The Beatles and David Bowie and it also had The Monkees and Men Without Hats. We have the artists who it's funny to make fun of, like Bieber, and we have Jack White, we have Kanye West, we have Radiohead--and we had David Bowie, he's a modern artist today, have you listened to Blackstar, which openly tips its cap to Kendrick Lamar?

Twenty years from now, Bowie and Kanye will be spoken of in the same breath (and sure, that happens today, but that's by the people who pay attention), and that's fine. Great work is done today just as much, if not more, as it was in the past, and you're being That Guy and you should never, ever, ever be That Guy.

Re: David Bowie Has Died

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Post by cageface »

bootload wrote: post #52
cageface wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If anything labels are more important than ever and music sales are driven by the kind of marketing campaigns that only big records labels can afford. There's a ton of interesting music being made outside their domain but most people will never hear any of it.

"If anything labels are more important than ever and music sales are driven by the kind of marketing campaigns that only big records labels can afford." That's what record companies would like you to think. Counter-example, Milk Records, Melbourne. It's might be a record company but it looks so much like a startup. - http://messandnoise.com/features/4666617 - http://diymag.com/2015/03/23/courtney-barnett-its-like-tur…

I've been traveling all over the world and all I hear everywhere I go is crap American top 40 pop music. Like I said there's a ton of interesting stuff going on outside their purview but they control the conversation right now.

Re: David Bowie Has Died

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Post by jacquesm »

jmduke wrote: post #9

And these children that you spit on / As they try to change their worlds / Are immune to your consultations / They're quite aware of what they're going through ~ from Changes Bowie is a legend.

Even if I don't have a record player any more I still have that on vynil. This sucks.

Re: David Bowie Has Died

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Post by spoondan »

__david__ wrote: post #38

Ah, man. This probably shouldn't make me sad (I never knew the guy), but it does. I've listened to his music for years and years, seen his songs permeate pop culture and leave his mark upon the world. The guy was a consummate artist and I regret never seeing him live. :-(

Your sadness is completely justified. As John Donne observed nearly 400 years ago, "any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind."

Re: David Bowie Has Died

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Post by ZeroMinx »

josteink wrote: post #20
brunorsini wrote: post #17

Such sad news. Given the Golden Globes is just over, it might be timely to rewatch the classic Extras segment in which Bowie roasts Gervais - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jv6mEv_rDdE

"This video contains content from BBC Worldwide, who has blocked it in your country on copyright grounds." You just have to love modern copyright.

Same(?) clip on dailymotion;

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xnleeu_extras-david-bowie_s...

It's available from Malta, whereas the Youtube one isn't.

Re: David Bowie Has Died

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Post by wyclif »

rplnt wrote: post #48
cageface wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If anything labels are more important than ever and music sales are driven by the kind of marketing campaigns that only big records labels can afford. There's a ton of interesting music being made outside their domain but most people will never hear any of it.

One would think services like Spotify would help, but they only make the music more accessible, they don't help you find it. I don't have pro and only ads I hear (besides the spotify ones that are trying to annoy you into paying) are ones from Universal Music.

I don't agree—I use Spotify a lot and it's helped tremendously in my finding new music. The "Discover Weekly" and social playlists features always point me to sources of new music.
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