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Microsoft: iPad’s Closed Platform is “Humorous”

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Re: Microsoft: iPad’s Closed Platform is “Humorous”

#11

No Microsoft, this is what's humorous: Developing applications for the iPhone and iPad is expensive, he said, because iPhone OS uses the Objective C language rather than Microsoft’s more pervasive .NET platform.

I thought the same thing. Why would a device created by apple run on a platform created by Microsoft.

It can also run Mono, so this makes very little sense.

Re: Microsoft: iPad’s Closed Platform is “Humorous”

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post #5

"With Microsoft’s platforms, developers can build whatever they want" Except on the Zune & Xbox platforms that is.

If you can compete with the million dollar budgets of video game companies I don't think anybody can stop you from developing for Xbox.

Re: Microsoft: iPad’s Closed Platform is “Humorous”

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post #12
post #5

"With Microsoft’s platforms, developers can build whatever they want" Except on the Zune & Xbox platforms that is.

If you can compete with the million dollar budgets of video game companies I don't think anybody can stop you from developing for Xbox.

I don't think you even need that with the XBox Live Indie Games project.

Re: Microsoft: iPad’s Closed Platform is “Humorous”

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post #12
post #5

"With Microsoft’s platforms, developers can build whatever they want" Except on the Zune & Xbox platforms that is.

If you can compete with the million dollar budgets of video game companies I don't think anybody can stop you from developing for Xbox.

Actually, the Xbox development model is more similar to iPhone than MS would like to admit:

- Cost per-seat to even get your hands on the SDK, check. $99/year for Apple, rumors put the 360 Dev Kit at $10K+ per seat, which is in line with historical numbers for Playstation also.

- Strict review and approval process, often taking a very long time. Developers have long complained that much-needed patches have been submitted to MS, but are stuck in approval/QA limbo.

- Strict control over distribution channel, onerous rules on what can or cannot be included.

- "App Store" model where MS handles all transactions between customer and developer.

Re: Microsoft: iPad’s Closed Platform is “Humorous”

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post #12
post #5

"With Microsoft’s platforms, developers can build whatever they want" Except on the Zune & Xbox platforms that is.

If you can compete with the million dollar budgets of video game companies I don't think anybody can stop you from developing for Xbox.

Microsoft certainly can. You have to accept their license agreement and possibly an NDA to develop on the Xbox platform. I don't think the exact terms are public knowledge. We can look at the XNA license/participation terms for some hints though:

"Microsoft reserves the right to take down a game retroactively without notice. Microsoft encourages peer reviewers to report objectionable content in a game."

"Peer reviewers will reject your game if:

-Your game contains prohibited content, which is content not allowed on Xbox LIVE services -You misrepresent what is in the game play or in the promotional materials for the game. All games must have a trial mode that showcases the actual game experience. If you fail to do so, or use this method to provide your game for free, your game will be failed in the Peer Review process. Games are NOT available for free currently on the system. This system is NOT a video hosting service and should not be used as such. -The promotional content for your game ( for example, the box art, description, banner or title) is not appropriate for all ages on Xbox LIVE Marketplace -The game crashes, it has too many bugs, or it is technically defective in some way"

Re: Microsoft: iPad’s Closed Platform is “Humorous”

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I think that the author is completely right about the iPad (the names still makes me grimace) being an appliance. As are all of Apple's products, more or less. Microsoft is a little off the mark on this one, but it IS their job to criticize their competitors. I look forward to seeing their technological rebuttal since they sound so cock-sure. They better act fast.

> "but it IS their job to criticize their competitors"

I disagree - both Google and Apple in the past have been very polite about their competitors' products. MS (particularly Ballmer) has a long and colorful track record of badmouthing competitors, only to have to eat their words later. Some of what MS has done for competing platforms/products has really bordered on smear campaigning, which IMHO is something that is far from standard procedure in our industry.

Re: Microsoft: iPad’s Closed Platform is “Humorous”

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No Microsoft, this is what's humorous: Developing applications for the iPhone and iPad is expensive, he said, because iPhone OS uses the Objective C language rather than Microsoft’s more pervasive .NET platform.

Same here, I literally laughed out loud at that, and read it to a nearby programmer. I've used .NET and Cocoa, he's used .NET, and we both think it's a laughable claim. Personally, I vastly prefer Cocoa's API / frameworks to .NET.

Programming for Apple products is frickin easy.

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