X.Org Might Lose Its Domain Name • Hacker News Board

Re: X.Org Might Lose Its Domain Name

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Post by GalacticDomin8r » Sat, Jan 09, 2016, 3:56 AM UTC

BobCat wrote: post #36

danvet wrote: post #31

To all the armchair domain admins commenting here: It's a single-letter domain in one of the traditional non-country TLDs. It only exists because it was grandfathered in in 1993 [1] I'm pretty sure no one here ever dealed with such a situation ever. If you try to change anything in its registration without supplying it in a legally watertight package delivered by lawyers nothing at all happens, not even extending the…

Maybe they should try calling the admin contact? His firm's phone number is easily findable. Interestingly, his website is unresolvable, possibly due to some hero trying to snipe his email?

Yeah, I'm sure they hadn't thought of that.

Re: X.Org Might Lose Its Domain Name

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Post by Kiro » Sat, Jan 09, 2016, 3:59 AM UTC

bosdev wrote: post #2

They're not losing it because of some legal battle or copyright claim, they're losing it because they lost contact with the guy who really owns it, and waited until they had one week to go to make the issue public.

You should apologize for spreading disinformation.

Re: X.Org Might Lose Its Domain Name

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Post by kmicklas » Sat, Jan 09, 2016, 4:07 AM UTC

KMag wrote: post #50

lucb1e wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The "(verb)" and "(noun)" actually make it less clear, by the way.

The difference is subtle to non-native speakers of European languages. Experience suggests that my girlfriend, for one, would find the gp easier to read with the notations.

> The difference is subtle to non-native speakers of European languages.

I don't think that's an accurate generalization. If anything, European languages are probably _more_ likely to morphologically distinguish nouns and verbs than normal, with English being an exception. (I don't have hard data to back this up though, could be wrong.)

Re: X.Org Might Lose Its Domain Name

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Post by chei0aiV » Sat, Jan 09, 2016, 4:15 AM UTC

bitwize wrote: post #20

Since not even the X.Org Foundation is particularly attached to X anymore, they could just let it lapse and register wayland.org or something.

wayland.org is already taken by a college

Re: X.Org Might Lose Its Domain Name

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Post by quonn » Sat, Jan 09, 2016, 5:12 AM UTC

KMag wrote: post #50

lucb1e wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The "(verb)" and "(noun)" actually make it less clear, by the way.

The difference is subtle to non-native speakers of European languages. Experience suggests that my girlfriend, for one, would find the gp easier to read with the notations.

I'm from Europe, and I found the gp very confusing and would have understood better without the hints.

Re: X.Org Might Lose Its Domain Name

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Post by 91bananas » Sat, Jan 09, 2016, 5:17 AM UTC

Kiro wrote: post #62

bosdev wrote: post #2

They're not losing it because of some legal battle or copyright claim, they're losing it because they lost contact with the guy who really owns it, and waited until they had one week to go to make the issue public.

You should apologize for spreading disinformation.

While spreading it may be bad, what will apologizing do?

Re: X.Org Might Lose Its Domain Name

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Post by GalacticDomin8r » Sat, Jan 09, 2016, 5:18 AM UTC

andrewd18 wrote: post #11

jayess wrote: post #8

What a terrible lack of information in this article.

As is standard for a Phoronix.com "article".

Ha, still not as bad as their "benchmarks" though.

Re: X.Org Might Lose Its Domain Name

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Post by cbhl » Sat, Jan 09, 2016, 5:47 AM UTC

nly wrote: post #58

tgb wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Except that the article's second paragraph says: > Apparently for the past half-year there have been some "ownership struggles" of the X.Org domain name, which the X.Org Foundation Board of Directors have been trying to resolve in private.

Still, if they're fighting for ownership, you'd think whoever has their finger on the button right now would at least have the decency to cough up $10 to renew it. It doesn't really make sense. Mr Shimans name is in the whois database, surely he has the authority? I wonder if anyone has bothered to take a 15 minute drive from MIT to meet him.

The renewal rate might be closer to $60/year, considering how old the domain is. (That's how much a .com cost in the 90s.)

Re: X.Org Might Lose Its Domain Name

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Post by sheepdestroyer » Sat, Jan 09, 2016, 6:15 AM UTC

lucb1e wrote: post #42

sandworm101 wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They don't need to trademark (verb) X to get a trademark (noun). Registration is a good idea, but failure to register doesn't mean any joe can start using X.org. So long as the organization used the mark in trade (ie sold something and/or took donations) their basic trademark will be protected.

The "(verb)" and "(noun)" actually make it less clear, by the way.

It is not less clear but redundant with "to" and "a". They already make the verb/noun distinction apparent.

Re: X.Org Might Lose Its Domain Name

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Post by x13 » Sat, Jan 09, 2016, 7:17 AM UTC

cbhl wrote: post #68

nly wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Still, if they're fighting for ownership, you'd think whoever has their finger on the button right now would at least have the decency to cough up $10 to renew it. It doesn't really make sense. Mr Shimans name is in the whois database, surely he has the authority? I wonder if anyone has bothered to take a 15 minute drive from MIT to meet him.

The renewal rate might be closer to $60/year, considering how old the domain is. (That's how much a .com cost in the 90s.)

luckily domain prices have changed over time; .org domains are priced annually between $9 - $12, purchased by registrars for ~$7.70 ('12)

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.org#Cost_of_registration

* I have had domains registered since '96