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X.Org Might Lose Its Domain Name

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Re: X.Org Might Lose Its Domain Name

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Post by danvet »

To all the armchair domain admins commenting here: It's a single-letter domain in one of the traditional non-country TLDs. It only exists because it was grandfathered in in 1993 [1] I'm pretty sure no one here ever dealed with such a situation ever. If you try to change anything in its registration without supplying it in a legally watertight package delivered by lawyers nothing at all happens, not even extending the registration as the non-owner. Just check the whois entry and look up the various ICANN domain status codes.

1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single-letter_second-level_dom...

Re: X.Org Might Lose Its Domain Name

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Post by sliverstorm »

bitwize wrote: post #20

Since not even the X.Org Foundation is particularly attached to X anymore, they could just let it lapse and register wayland.org or something.

Even if they aren't closely tied to the X software package anymore, they are literally called "the X.Org Foundation". Why wouldn't they want to hang on to x.org?

Re: X.Org Might Lose Its Domain Name

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Post by michaelmrose »

allendoerfer wrote: post #4

A project that loses an asset that valuable, because they cannot get their act together until one week before the disaster is going to die sooner or later anyway, even if you disregard that they are indeed already dying.

Lots of assumptions there.

Re: X.Org Might Lose Its Domain Name

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Post by nickodell »

viraptor wrote: post #21
elbigbad wrote: post #7

So can they just re-register it when it expires, or is the reason they can't do that because lots of people will be waiting to register it at the moment it expires?

People are queueing up to take over any domain with moderate amount of traffic. Since the expiry time is public, there are lists of soon-expiring domains. This is way worse for a heavy traffic domain, and probably ridiculous for x.org.

You can't register a single-letter .org anymore.

Re: X.Org Might Lose Its Domain Name

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Post by BobCat »

danvet wrote: post #31

To all the armchair domain admins commenting here: It's a single-letter domain in one of the traditional non-country TLDs. It only exists because it was grandfathered in in 1993 [1] I'm pretty sure no one here ever dealed with such a situation ever. If you try to change anything in its registration without supplying it in a legally watertight package delivered by lawyers nothing at all happens, not even extending the…

Maybe they should try calling the admin contact? His firm's phone number is easily findable. Interestingly, his website is unresolvable, possibly due to some hero trying to snipe his email?

Re: X.Org Might Lose Its Domain Name

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Post by allendoerfer »

michaelmrose wrote: post #33
allendoerfer wrote: post #4

A project that loses an asset that valuable, because they cannot get their act together until one week before the disaster is going to die sooner or later anyway, even if you disregard that they are indeed already dying.

Lots of assumptions there.

It is my personal opinion, that I expressed in a commentary (definition: an expression of opinions or offering of explanations about an event or situation) section on the internet.

Re: X.Org Might Lose Its Domain Name

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Post by toast0 »

mmahemoff wrote: post #28
duskwuff wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know about Network Solutions, but allowing anyone to renew a domain is not the norm. In some situations, it can even pose legal problems. For instance, a somewhat common resolution to domain trademark disputes is for the owner to pledge to discontinue use of a domain and to allow the domain to expire without renewing or transferring it. If anyone is allowed to renew a domain without needing the owner's permis…

Surely the resolution to any trademark conflict would be a domain transfer or not. "Let it lapse and end up with some other random owner" benefits only the lawyers. That said, I can see why some owners may wish to immediately disavow a domain if they consider it to be a legal or reputational risk. In that case, it can simply be transferred to another owner, so I don't see why it would be a problem for anyone to renew…

some TLDs (mostly ccTLDs) have onerous ownership requirements, it might be easier in that case to just have ann agreement to let it be dormant, given whatever circumstances.

Re: X.Org Might Lose Its Domain Name

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Post by monochromatic »

> The domain is currently registered in the name of X.Org Foundation LLC, which the foundation dissolved when forming the 501(c)3 organization.

How is it even vaguely possible that there's no paperwork assigning all assets of X.Org Foundation LLC to the 501(c)(3)?

Where is the lawyer who handled this for them?

Re: X.Org Might Lose Its Domain Name

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Post by miander »

allendoerfer wrote: post #37
michaelmrose wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lots of assumptions there.

It is my personal opinion, that I expressed in a commentary (definition: an expression of opinions or offering of explanations about an event or situation) section on the internet.

Which is also why it's a good place for people to critique your opinion. On that note, I believe you are invoking a fallacy by the name of "I'm entitled to my opinion".
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