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X.Org Might Lose Its Domain Name

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Re: X.Org Might Lose Its Domain Name

#21
post #7

So can they just re-register it when it expires, or is the reason they can't do that because lots of people will be waiting to register it at the moment it expires?

People are queueing up to take over any domain with moderate amount of traffic. Since the expiry time is public, there are lists of soon-expiring domains. This is way worse for a heavy traffic domain, and probably ridiculous for x.org.

Re: X.Org Might Lose Its Domain Name

#23
post #16

From: https://wiki.gandi.net/en/contacts/troubleshooting/lost-hand... "Since domains can be renewed from any handle, sometimes people create a new handle to renew a domain. (While this is not a problem in itself, it can create confusion, so it is only recommended as a last resort.)" Basically you don't need access to the domain to renew it, you only need access if you want make changes. A random member of the public…

I don't know about Network Solutions, but allowing anyone to renew a domain is not the norm. In some situations, it can even pose legal problems. For instance, a somewhat common resolution to domain trademark disputes is for the owner to pledge to discontinue use of a domain and to allow the domain to expire without renewing or transferring it. If anyone is allowed to renew a domain without needing the owner's permission, they can potentially put the owner of a trademark-infringing domain in a sticky situation.

Re: X.Org Might Lose Its Domain Name

#26
post #2

They're not losing it because of some legal battle or copyright claim, they're losing it because they lost contact with the guy who really owns it, and waited until they had one week to go to make the issue public.

"They guy who really owns it"? I didn't get that from the article.

It sounded like it was registered to their LLC which was restructured, and now cannot prove they are still the same organization.

Re: X.Org Might Lose Its Domain Name

#27
The article's statement about the administrative/registration contact is not quite correct.

The given email address seems to belong to this person, but he is still not the actual owner/registrant of the domain, which is the LLC.

The question now is who is the actual representative, respectively legal successor, of the LLC. This person/entity should be able to get the contact address changed to an address under their control.

Re: X.Org Might Lose Its Domain Name

#28
post #16

From: https://wiki.gandi.net/en/contacts/troubleshooting/lost-hand... "Since domains can be renewed from any handle, sometimes people create a new handle to renew a domain. (While this is not a problem in itself, it can create confusion, so it is only recommended as a last resort.)" Basically you don't need access to the domain to renew it, you only need access if you want make changes. A random member of the public…

I don't know about Network Solutions, but allowing anyone to renew a domain is not the norm. In some situations, it can even pose legal problems. For instance, a somewhat common resolution to domain trademark disputes is for the owner to pledge to discontinue use of a domain and to allow the domain to expire without renewing or transferring it. If anyone is allowed to renew a domain without needing the owner's permis…

Surely the resolution to any trademark conflict would be a domain transfer or not. "Let it lapse and end up with some other random owner" benefits only the lawyers.

That said, I can see why some owners may wish to immediately disavow a domain if they consider it to be a legal or reputational risk. In that case, it can simply be transferred to another owner, so I don't see why it would be a problem for anyone to renew it (though payment fraud might be a separate concern from some registrars).

Re: X.Org Might Lose Its Domain Name

#29
post #2

They're not losing it because of some legal battle or copyright claim, they're losing it because they lost contact with the guy who really owns it, and waited until they had one week to go to make the issue public.

No, they're in danger of massive registration headaches because they don't have a clear chain of proof of migration from the LLC (since dissolved) to the 501(c)3 that succeeded it, and they're either not in contact with the person who was the administrative contact when the LLC existed or he's being unhelpful. I'll note that the listing was last updated in 2007, so his name's been on the contact info for 8+ years - p…

When 1 character domains expire, they are not available for re-registration- Just FYI

Re: X.Org Might Lose Its Domain Name

#30
post #16

From: https://wiki.gandi.net/en/contacts/troubleshooting/lost-hand... "Since domains can be renewed from any handle, sometimes people create a new handle to renew a domain. (While this is not a problem in itself, it can create confusion, so it is only recommended as a last resort.)" Basically you don't need access to the domain to renew it, you only need access if you want make changes. A random member of the public…

I don't know about Network Solutions, but allowing anyone to renew a domain is not the norm. In some situations, it can even pose legal problems. For instance, a somewhat common resolution to domain trademark disputes is for the owner to pledge to discontinue use of a domain and to allow the domain to expire without renewing or transferring it. If anyone is allowed to renew a domain without needing the owner's permis…

I don't know why anyone would ever use Network Solutions. They have a long history of really shady practices and breaches. I worked info sec for a company that registered their domains through Network Solutions, and someone called in, got a password reset, and took administrative control over the account. Re-routed our domain for several hours, including MX records. Doing that investigation, I found tons of articles online of others saying that same thing, that Network Solutions let their accounts be taken over by someone with no claim to the account.
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