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Swiss-Based Cloud VPS – For Developers Who Care

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Re: Swiss-Based Cloud VPS – For Developers Who Care

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I'm the founder of SSD Nodes, a US-based cloud provider, and we have special HN pricing where you can get 1GB RAM instances for only $2.99/mo https://www.ssdnodes.com/hn/ * You can upgrade with zero downtime to a larger server (it will live resize) * 100% uptime SLA * Fastest SSDs (we've achieved over 200K write IOPS and 1GB/s writes) * Direct support from engineers * Bitcoin payments accepted * 7-day no-hassle refun…

Where is the servers based? Why is there no info besides "us based". Do you have data-centers in EU as well?

We operate out of several datacenters, the servers for this deal are located in Montreal, Canada. We don't have EU servers yet, but are planning in expansion.

Re: Swiss-Based Cloud VPS – For Developers Who Care

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Simple pricing. No need for a calculator. And then you quote prices in swiss franks instead of US dollars as its common in hosting industry. I don't have currency converter in my head nor I know USD->CHF rate

If you are looking at their website using a browser connected to the internet, you don't need to do currency conversions in you head and memorise the exchange rates every morning, you can just use that same browser to ask for a currency conversion from any of a number of sites, e.g. https://www.google.co.uk/webhp?#q=1%20chf%20in%20usd https://duckduckgo.com/?q=1chf+in+usd&ia=currency http://www.wolframalpha.com/input…

That's all very true but not the point. If you want to sell your product, you should make it as easy as possible for the customer to understand the value of your product and price is part of that judgement. And charging in CHF is not an excuse not to put the price in USD or EUR next to the CHF with the most up-to-date conversion rate that you get from those links you shared.

Re: Swiss-Based Cloud VPS – For Developers Who Care

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I would prefer moving some of my many VPS to a local provider but Exoscale and this one have a minimum of around CHF 30 which doesn't make it worth it for me. I run many small instances not just a few big ones. In addition I would like to know which datacenter this is in and who is providing the uplink? Many datacenters in Zürich are foreign owned. Equinix alone has 5 running and will have 7 soon. EDIT: BTW Swisscom…

Just a small heads up: Swisscom is the ex-monopolist and very anti net-neutrality and even went as far as to dream about demanding money from startups who want priority of their data.

Re: Swiss-Based Cloud VPS – For Developers Who Care

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I'm the founder of SSD Nodes, a US-based cloud provider, and we have special HN pricing where you can get 1GB RAM instances for only $2.99/mo https://www.ssdnodes.com/hn/ * You can upgrade with zero downtime to a larger server (it will live resize) * 100% uptime SLA * Fastest SSDs (we've achieved over 200K write IOPS and 1GB/s writes) * Direct support from engineers * Bitcoin payments accepted * 7-day no-hassle refun…

What virtualization do you use? OpenVZ, KVM, XenPV, XenHVM?

Across the company we use all of them, because our enterprise clients all have different needs. For this deal we use OpenVZ, with our own proprietary workload balancing algorithm that migrates containers so that each gets optimal performance.

Re: Swiss-Based Cloud VPS – For Developers Who Care

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I once rented servers from Switzerland. I guess mainly based on the image of them being secure, privacy-oriented etc. It was not cheap, of course, but I was fine with that. Turns out that they had really lousy security practice, their staff was probably some idiots. The granted access to our servers to some random dude with simple social engineering hack. In addition they never admitted their mistake, although it was…

If you use that kind of measure, I guess we'll all have to create our own countries to make sure we don't use services from a country that once had a company with bad practices?

Re: Swiss-Based Cloud VPS – For Developers Who Care

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've seen enough pricing pages to know that "popular" really means "recommended", but with the added benefit of social proof.

Wow, you actually believe that? To me 'popular' means 'has the best margins for us'.

It's a lot more complicated than that. My friend ran a reselling company back during the CPanel days and he broke down his pricing structure. For hosting, profit is almost always a direct function of the level of plan if they're priced without specials and you assume the transfer was used to capacity(which was the largest expenditure during that era, by far -- hardware and 1.5 amps to each unit was negligible). Things were different since this was before the advent of bittorrent, dropbox, and ones ability to get 100mb fibre drops to the home from Verizon, but I think he mentioned ~80% of his COGS was bandwidth and unpredicted expenditures (i.e., server maintenance by a tech-- this was when KVM-over-IP units were like $200/mo).

His customers fell into a variety of groups though. Some people wanted to host their own domain/mail (again, this was before Gmail), so their consumption was negligble and despite being on the lowest tier, his margins were huge. Then you'd have people who'd take the middle-tier deal where the margins were bigger, but people (like my friends and I in high school) would host-jump and max out or bandwidth every month until they TOS'ed us (unfairly, might I add). I'd speculate there might be quite a few people who buy the lowest deal because it's the cheapest, never log in, and fail to cancel it out of lethargy as it's like 4 dollars a month (i.e., the "Godaddy upsell"). Who knows though.

Re: Swiss-Based Cloud VPS – For Developers Who Care

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If a company's tag line is "For Developers Who Care", I'd expect more than a blatant rip-off of DigitalOcean's home page. The first part of the page is dominated by the demo on the right on both and the tag-line and signup on the left. The workflow for creating a VPS is basically the same right down to selecting an SSH key. Even the demo video is surrounded by the same minimalist OS X-like window. It isn't a standard…

So, you're saying:

1. DigitalOcean is a good product people trust.

2. They copied everything about it.

3. So, it's a bad product that we can't trust?

What am I missing aside from an ethical argument? If it's operationally like DO, then that's already an argument in it's favor. If it's just appearances, then it's a knock-off that ain't worth shit. I'm ignoring ethics of copying interfaces for now in favor of quality of service as many businesses will. Clearly, the interface will do just fine.

Re: Swiss-Based Cloud VPS – For Developers Who Care

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What virtualization do you use? OpenVZ, KVM, XenPV, XenHVM?

Across the company we use all of them, because our enterprise clients all have different needs. For this deal we use OpenVZ, with our own proprietary workload balancing algorithm that migrates containers so that each gets optimal performance.

Thanks. Like most technically-minded people, I wouldn't be interested in OpenVZ even at $2.99 a month.

Re: Swiss-Based Cloud VPS – For Developers Who Care

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I once rented servers from Switzerland. I guess mainly based on the image of them being secure, privacy-oriented etc. It was not cheap, of course, but I was fine with that. Turns out that they had really lousy security practice, their staff was probably some idiots. The granted access to our servers to some random dude with simple social engineering hack. In addition they never admitted their mistake, although it was…

I knew you were talking about Private Layer long before you mentioned them in the end.

They are utter shit and not representative of the Swiss hosting market.

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