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Swiss-Based Cloud VPS – For Developers Who Care

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Re: Swiss-Based Cloud VPS – For Developers Who Care

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As a Swiss citizen myself, I am not convinced that hosting in Switzerland is any better privacy-wise than e.g. in Germany. New laws like BÜPF and NDG seem to get us closer to where the EU is in terms of what the government is allowed to access, and what providers are forced to log.

This talk is a good intro on what's going on in Switzerland right now https://media.ccc.de/v/32c3-7205-netzpolitik_in_der_schweiz#...

Re: Swiss-Based Cloud VPS – For Developers Who Care

#3
Comparing with DigitalOcean (seemingly CloudScale's model), what's missing here for me is a dirt-cheap, let's-spin-a-VM-for-a-single-webpage option. I want something like CloudScale to exist so I'll definitely give it a try.

Edit: had a comment about previous performance, but I had mistaken CloudScale for one of their competitors, woops.

Re: Swiss-Based Cloud VPS – For Developers Who Care

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I would prefer moving some of my many VPS to a local provider but Exoscale and this one have a minimum of around CHF 30 which doesn't make it worth it for me. I run many small instances not just a few big ones.

In addition I would like to know which datacenter this is in and who is providing the uplink? Many datacenters in Zürich are foreign owned. Equinix alone has 5 running and will have 7 soon.

EDIT: BTW Swisscom offers application hosting (https://developer.swisscom.com/pricing)

Re: Swiss-Based Cloud VPS – For Developers Who Care

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As a Swiss citizen myself, I am not convinced that hosting in Switzerland is any better privacy-wise than e.g. in Germany. New laws like BÜPF and NDG seem to get us closer to where the EU is in terms of what the government is allowed to access, and what providers are forced to log. This talk is a good intro on what's going on in Switzerland right now https://media.ccc.de/v/32c3-7205-netzpolitik_in_der_schweiz#...

It's branding, people think "swiss" implies trust, when really hosting there is unlikely to offer any better protection than most other european country.

The same is true of Iceland. Some well-meaning people had good ideas for new laws and lobbied for them. Most of their suggestions never got implemented, but foreign media was fawning over it and didn't correctly indicate that these were just proposals. So now people believe Iceland is some kind of free-speech data haven.

Re: Swiss-Based Cloud VPS – For Developers Who Care

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CHF 30 (approx $30 USD) is quite steep for the base offering, compared to US-based providers (DO, Linode, AWS).

What specific guarantees do I have regarding data privacy that I wouldn't get of I hosted in the US? That's something I'd like to see listed prominently on the site, so I can determine if the extra cost is worth it.

Re: Swiss-Based Cloud VPS – For Developers Who Care

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Simple pricing. No need for a calculator. And then you quote prices in swiss franks instead of US dollars as its common in hosting industry. I don't have currency converter in my head nor I know USD->CHF rate

It practically 1:1 at the moment (1.00 USD = 0.999026 CHF)
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