What was the anti solar decision? The article doesn't seem to say.
SolarCity Will Eliminate Over 550 Job Due to State’s Anti-Rooftop Solar Decision
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Re: SolarCity Will Eliminate Over 550 Job Due to State’s Anti-Rooftop Solar Decision
#12So, seeing as how the Governor of Nevada just cost thousands of citizens of his state their job, in an industry that is progressive and required for the survival of that state (and the nation as a whole), why has the state legislature not immediately begun impeachment? Politicians need to be taught that they serve at the pleasure of the people, and when they stop doing what they are told, they will no longer be emplo…
>why has the state legislature not immediately begun impeachment?
I was under the impression that impeachment is not a "I didn't get my way, I'm going to remove you from office" card. It's not for validating the whims of the electorate because some of them think they're not being served. It's for bringing official charges to an elected official and putting them on trial. What charges can you file against the governor based on this short article and actually bring to trial?
Re: SolarCity Will Eliminate Over 550 Job Due to State’s Anti-Rooftop Solar Decision
#13If solar can't make it in Nevada without subsidies, the industry has a big problem. Nevada's population is mostly around Las Vegas, which is at 36° latitude and has 294 sunny days a year. It doesn't get much better than that.
Utilities are still buying back power, just at wholesale rates. You can still use the power yourself and buy less at retail rates. Or you can get some of Tesla's batteries and store it for nighttime use. If your solar panel output matches your air conditioning load, this shouldn't affect you.
Re: SolarCity Will Eliminate Over 550 Job Due to State’s Anti-Rooftop Solar Decision
#14This article seems to have a more thorough explanation: http://www.marketwatch.com/story/is-this-sunny-state-trying-... snip ----------------------- A little-understood billing mechanism called net metering is at the heart of the Nevada controversy. Net metering means that residential and commercial solar customers are billed for their “net” energy consumption. They are allowed to send back to the grid the electricit…
The ironic part here is that the Nevada utilities are accelerating their own demise by opposing rooftop solar. In a few short years, batteries will be cheap and plentiful enough that it will be unnecessary to cut deals like these with the utilities in order to have a profitable solar rooftop installation.
By removing the incentive for customers to cooperate with the utilities, the utility companies are further incentivizing the installation of residential battery storage, which will further reduce the utilities' influence down the road.
Re: SolarCity Will Eliminate Over 550 Job Due to State’s Anti-Rooftop Solar Decision
#15This article seems to have a more thorough explanation: http://www.marketwatch.com/story/is-this-sunny-state-trying-... snip ----------------------- A little-understood billing mechanism called net metering is at the heart of the Nevada controversy. Net metering means that residential and commercial solar customers are billed for their “net” energy consumption. They are allowed to send back to the grid the electricit…
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Re: SolarCity Will Eliminate Over 550 Job Due to State’s Anti-Rooftop Solar Decision
#16So, seeing as how the Governor of Nevada just cost thousands of citizens of his state their job, in an industry that is progressive and required for the survival of that state (and the nation as a whole), why has the state legislature not immediately begun impeachment? Politicians need to be taught that they serve at the pleasure of the people, and when they stop doing what they are told, they will no longer be emplo…
> Politicians need to be taught that they serve at the pleasure of the people, and when they stop doing what they are told, they will no longer be employed. I have seen very little evidence that this is true, at least in the last 50 years or so. Sure, there are isolated recalls here and there, but the vast majority suffer no repercussions regardless of how they act. A single vote every few years is a piss-poor way of…
Most people don't have time or know how to protest even when they are pissed about law changes. There should probably be a class on this in grade school.
Re: SolarCity Will Eliminate Over 550 Job Due to State’s Anti-Rooftop Solar Decision
#17If solar can't make it in Nevada without subsidies, the industry has a big problem. Nevada's population is mostly around Las Vegas, which is at 36° latitude and has 294 sunny days a year. It doesn't get much better than that. Utilities are still buying back power, just at wholesale rates. You can still use the power yourself and buy less at retail rates. Or you can get some of Tesla's batteries and store it for night…
Thanks, this analysis puts it all in context for a foreigner who has read the original article as 'governor has long supported solar, and then stupidly changed his mind'.
Re: SolarCity Will Eliminate Over 550 Job Due to State’s Anti-Rooftop Solar Decision
#18This article seems to have a more thorough explanation: http://www.marketwatch.com/story/is-this-sunny-state-trying-... snip ----------------------- A little-understood billing mechanism called net metering is at the heart of the Nevada controversy. Net metering means that residential and commercial solar customers are billed for their “net” energy consumption. They are allowed to send back to the grid the electricit…
The ironic part here is that the Nevada utilities are accelerating their own demise by opposing rooftop solar. In a few short years, batteries will be cheap and plentiful enough that it will be unnecessary to cut deals like these with the utilities in order to have a profitable solar rooftop installation. By removing the incentive for customers to cooperate with the utilities, the utility companies are further incent…
It's not that simple. A system that is not grid connected will need a lot more than just a battery to make it as reliable as a grid connection. Those 'few short years' are more likely a couple of decades, in other words well over the horizon for the people that are currently trying to squeeze the most profit from those utilities.
Residential battery storage is just one component is a complex chain that needs to be deployed for every house that could be off the grid, it actually side-steps the need for net metering (because you can simply store your own excess). For those use cases the grid functions exactly like a battery, only one with near infinite capacity.
It also serves as a back-up, in case of system failure, extended lack of power from whatever sources you've got and so on. And that function is far harder to engineer around than the mere energy storage and recovery one.
Re: SolarCity Will Eliminate Over 550 Job Due to State’s Anti-Rooftop Solar Decision
#19So, seeing as how the Governor of Nevada just cost thousands of citizens of his state their job, in an industry that is progressive and required for the survival of that state (and the nation as a whole), why has the state legislature not immediately begun impeachment? Politicians need to be taught that they serve at the pleasure of the people, and when they stop doing what they are told, they will no longer be emplo…
> why has the state legislature not immediately begun impeachment? I was under the impression that impeachment is not a "I didn't get my way, I'm going to remove you from office" card. It's not for validating the whims of the electorate because some of them think they're not being served. It's for bringing official charges to an elected official and putting them on trial. What charges can you file against the governo…
I know it isn't but technically it really should be. What use is it to have someone represent you that no longer serves your interests.
Re: SolarCity Will Eliminate Over 550 Job Due to State’s Anti-Rooftop Solar Decision
#20So, seeing as how the Governor of Nevada just cost thousands of citizens of his state their job, in an industry that is progressive and required for the survival of that state (and the nation as a whole), why has the state legislature not immediately begun impeachment? Politicians need to be taught that they serve at the pleasure of the people, and when they stop doing what they are told, they will no longer be emplo…
> why has the state legislature not immediately begun impeachment? I was under the impression that impeachment is not a "I didn't get my way, I'm going to remove you from office" card. It's not for validating the whims of the electorate because some of them think they're not being served. It's for bringing official charges to an elected official and putting them on trial. What charges can you file against the governo…
I think the best legal action is SolarCity (and others) to sue the State of Nevada over loss of business. Is that possible?