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Netflix Is Now Available Around the World
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#322Earlier quoted context omitted.
Maybe a stupid questions but what if they disrupted not just TV but also cinema? I assume that the distribution of films around the world is more limited than we think. At some point when Netflix has a much larger subscriber base, it may make more sense for films to be released directly to Netflix for global consumption. They could even be clever about it and have it only open for "live showings" at specific hours or…
>Maybe a stupid questions but what if they disrupted not just TV but also cinema? They are trying. Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon 2 is being released simultaneously in theaters and on Netflix. Some chains complained and are refusing to show it. But honestly, I don't see it. Cinema is $10-15/person/visit, and Netflix is $10/mo for an entire library of content. Profit margins for Hollywood aren't that great - so how do…
> Profit margins for Hollywood aren't that great
Avatar production cost: $237,000,000 USD
Avatar global revenue : $2,787,965,087 USD
91% of Avatar's total revenue was pure profit... practically unheard of in most industries.
Sure, Avatar is a unicorn, and sure studios often produce strike-out movies... but the occasional home-run more than makes up for them.
> How do you justify spending $200 million on Force Awakens and hope to recoup that from Netflix fees?
Perhaps the $200 million production cost is unreasonable. We've all seen how many people and companies are involved in producing a single movie. The actor assistants have assistants that have assistants who have paid interns. One company will do a single character model while another goes a different character.
There's so much waste in the movie industry... it's ripe for the typical "SV" disruption (come in cheaper, and same or similar quality, and make it more easily accessible to the masses).
Re: Netflix Is Now Available Around the World
#323Earlier quoted context omitted.
If the movie is no longer generating so much revenue (because streaming) then actors will no longer be able to (successfully) demand 8 figure payments. Pretty much what happened to authors of novels.
Were publishing companies hiring authors for millions of dollars? I know authors usually use publishers for review / editing / publication, but I'm not aware of a time where the relationship was not "publisher gets X% cut of revenue". When was it "author gets X million dollars"? The same applies to music. Pretty much every creative industry outside film is paying the performers or creators a percentage of sales. Its…
> The same applies to music. Pretty much every creative industry outside film is paying the performers or creators a percentage of sales. Its just harder for that to scale to endeavors that take thousands of people like modern blockbusters.
For performers, actors in plays, members of an orchestra, backup dancers behind a pop star... most are getting paid per performance or per period of time, not royalties. Royalties are more common for people who can take a majority responsibility for the end product, e.g. a solo artist or an author.
Re: Netflix Is Now Available Around the World
#324Earlier quoted context omitted.
Right, I agree. I was referring to the parent mentioning "the Netflix you all talk about". That Netflix is changing every day. I used to use Netflix to ship me DVDs, then I protested the Qwikster move by switching to streaming-only, which was great for movies (for awhile) but has been shifting to TV content. To be honest, I don't use Netflix much, but the value I get is still worth the $8/mo. Some months I don't use…
That site looked almost useful, until i found it doesn't allow me to search i.e. Netflix/Amazon Germany, as opposed to Netflix/Amazon USA.
It doesn't really work for Amazon US either (well, works for DVD/BD only)
Re: Netflix Is Now Available Around the World
#325Earlier quoted context omitted.
There are 2 sides to the transaction and it comes down to margins. If the margins don't exist to pay Harrison Ford $40M then either he takes less $ or another actor is found.
Or the movie doesn't happen and we will see movies of lower quality because of that in coming years?
If the industry shifts to paying its top stars smaller but still large sums of money then maybe Harrison Ford won't accept that, but the best actors in the next generation who weren't used to getting paid todays rates will.
Re: Netflix Is Now Available Around the World
#326Earlier quoted context omitted.
If "disrupting cinema" in this context means abandoning cinema altogether and switching the big screen with a regular HD TV, then I as a consumer hope this future won't happen. "Live showings" with restricted hours doesn't make sense to me either. This sounds like artificially replicating the limitiations of cinema but throwing away all its advantages.
What are all these advantages of cinema, pray tell? You do not really talk to the rest of the audience other than those you went to the cinema with, and that can perfectly be replicated at home. The surround sound is indeed better, but that can be replicated with headphones or, if you're dedicated, with speakers around the room.
So you have a 40+ foot screen in your living room with blacked out windows, 7.1 surround sound to match?
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#327The sad thing is you have to sort of 'cheat' netflix if you want content that isn't just seemingly random B level shows by using a US proxy. I'm in Canada and honestly had no idea just how much better the US version of netflix was.
Re: Netflix Is Now Available Around the World
#328What is missing in a lot of these comments is acknowledging that Netflix may become the largest global "television" network in the world as adoption increases. They have original content lined up and control those rights, and they will continue to expand their reach with that content. Whether they add the "same" streaming content as they have purchased from other providers in the US is not the point here - the big im…
I believe this is exactly right. And all the things that gave networks monopoly power (like spectrum ownership) will become irrelevant. You can mark the day this happens when NetFlix starts offering a daily 'news' update type program.
Of course most people see this already, and the extreme tactics around last mile broadband are exactly around this problem. Netflix can't work if their packets can't get to you, and the person who controls that last mile can hold their packets hostage (and has). If you want to poke a dragon some time, start advocating for equal access to broadband in your municipality :-).
Re: Netflix Is Now Available Around the World
#329Earlier quoted context omitted.
There are 2 sides to the transaction and it comes down to margins. If the margins don't exist to pay Harrison Ford $40M then either he takes less $ or another actor is found.
Or the movie doesn't happen and we will see movies of lower quality because of that in coming years?
The original Star Wars did okay using no-name actors instead of paying Harrison Ford $10 million just to show up.
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#330Earlier quoted context omitted.
I am fine paying this much. Potentially. Maybe they could also sell subsets for a lower price?
You're most likely in the minority. Spotify and Hulu can barely get people to pay ~$10-12/month. Lots of content = its all worth a whole lot less to people.
Music is something a ton of people passively listen to. It's background noise, and for the passive (and primary) music audience, familiar is good.
When people go out of their way to download or stream a show, it's not usually background. Providers know that, that's why they insist on shoving 20 minutes of commercials in front of you for a 40 minute show. You're captive.
I truly believe there are a lot of people out there like me, who are willing to pay existing cable prices for completely on-demand content. They just don't know it/think about it because they aren't navel-gazers like we are.