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Re: Twitter Considering 10,000-Character Limit for Tweets

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post #128

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No, like 50 cents.

?! The sum of powers of 2 up to 20 is 2^21-1, which is ~$20k; so not $100k, but definitely not 50 cents.

Yeah, I botched my mental math, but yours isn't quite right either, because the 141st character is 1 cent, which is 2^0. So the 20th power of two in this context is 2^19, and the sum of the powers of two up to the 19th is 2^20 - 1.

Re: Twitter Considering 10,000-Character Limit for Tweets

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To the people thinking 10,000 characters means suddenly everyone will write blog posts instead of tweets... Have you ever tried blogging? Writing blog posts is insanely hard and time consuming. You'd be an outlier if you could write one good blog post a day. It's not like every tweet is suddenly going to be an essay. More likely tweets will just be slightly longer (200 characters or something) and then there will be the occasional longer post. This is great because the hacks we were using beforehand (tweetstorms, replying to yourself, posting images of text) were all ridiculous for such a basic use case.

Re: Twitter Considering 10,000-Character Limit for Tweets

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post #115

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Ah yes, only $100k for a 160 character tweet. Edit: mental math botched. I thought I remembered the powers of 2 better than I actually did. 160 characters would be about 10k, and 100k would buy you a whopping 163 characters.

If they make the limit infinite, you'd end up being paid -1/12 of a cent. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-I6XTVZXww

Good Lord, I watched the second video -- the one featuring Ed Copeland -- and I think I just fried my brain for the rest of the day.

(Also, he has fantastic penmanship.)

Re: Twitter Considering 10,000-Character Limit for Tweets

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post #33

Other commenters seem to be missing a critical point here: tweets continue to have a 140 character display with some sort of "read more" that you click to see the rest. To me, that actually sounds pretty great. One thing that's nice about Twitter is that it's fairly skimmable. All of those "1/ Some thought", "2/ some thought continued" threads damage that. Combining them into a "My thoughts on... read more" tweet wou…

actually we get the implementation, but it is bad UX practise. it adds friction to the reading experience and will increase the quantity of tweets with truncated text within the first 140 chars. Twitter poorly handles this already with its URL preview cards. from a UX side, it's bad no matter how much spin Twitter will bring.

Bad UX practice according to whom?

I was initially really against this, but parent comment brings a compelling argument: people are already using the service to say more than 140chars worth of stuff. The current methods to do it result in a far worse user experience than the tried and true "Read More" button would.

That said, I'm skeptical of it just in terms of product definition. Like Instagram adding portrait/landscape photos, more than 140 characters to a tweet does nothing but obscure what exactly the product is and how you're supposed to use it (even if people circumvent that anyhow).

Re: Twitter Considering 10,000-Character Limit for Tweets

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post #141
post #128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

?! The sum of powers of 2 up to 20 is 2^21-1, which is ~$20k; so not $100k, but definitely not 50 cents.

Yeah, I botched my mental math, but yours isn't quite right either, because the 141st character is 1 cent, which is 2^0. So the 20th power of two in this context is 2^19, and the sum of the powers of two up to the 19th is 2^20 - 1.

Damn. I had originally even typed it with 2^20-1 and $10k, but then second-guessed myself. (This process of me second guessing my math intuition and then making it worse is also why I didn't end up competing on the national level for my state in the high school math leagues ;P.)

Re: Twitter Considering 10,000-Character Limit for Tweets

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post #33

Other commenters seem to be missing a critical point here: tweets continue to have a 140 character display with some sort of "read more" that you click to see the rest. To me, that actually sounds pretty great. One thing that's nice about Twitter is that it's fairly skimmable. All of those "1/ Some thought", "2/ some thought continued" threads damage that. Combining them into a "My thoughts on... read more" tweet wou…

With this addition they will have officially become a user-focused Reddit. It's certainly not a bad thing but I doubt it's where the Twitter devs saw themselves heading. I'm sure people will continue to write 140 character messages but they'll probably become a minority over time. The bulk of tweets will just become title+link to external content or title+discussion starter.

Re: Twitter Considering 10,000-Character Limit for Tweets

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post #82

Okay what's differentiating Twitter from fucking Facebook now? Only the facts that there's (currently) no policy against pseudonyms, bots and multiple accounts and that there's no useless crap games like Farmville.

I think that the crucial difference between twitter and facebook is not the length of the posts, but the fact that twitter is broadcast, or "publish-subscribe", while facebook is semi-private through reciprocal permission (by default).

Funny enough, Facebook first copied Twitter with the subscription function...

Re: Twitter Considering 10,000-Character Limit for Tweets

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post #115

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Ah yes, only $100k for a 160 character tweet. Edit: mental math botched. I thought I remembered the powers of 2 better than I actually did. 160 characters would be about 10k, and 100k would buy you a whopping 163 characters.

If they make the limit infinite, you'd end up being paid -1/12 of a cent. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-I6XTVZXww

Only if you're an Indian Mathematician.

or a physicist.

Re: Twitter Considering 10,000-Character Limit for Tweets

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post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ah yes, only $100k for a 160 character tweet. Edit: mental math botched. I thought I remembered the powers of 2 better than I actually did. 160 characters would be about 10k, and 100k would buy you a whopping 163 characters.

No, like 50 cents.

What evanpw seems to be suggesting grows faster than you might think.

There's a neat story on that point: http://mathforum.org/sanders/geometry/GP11Fable.html

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