Bayes's Theorem: What's the Big Deal?
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Bayes's Theorem: What's the Big Deal?
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#2I'm only a bit disappointed that the author seems not to realize that Bayes' theorem is just a simple consequence of probability theory, and should be attractive not because "maybe the brain is Bayesian", but because it is based on sound set-theoretic and analytic principles. If Bayes' theorem is false, so is probability theory, and so is nearly everything we know about probability.
Edit: Here is a good explanation of the theorem that makes it visually clear how only set theory is involved in deriving it: https://oscarbonilla.com/2009/05/visualizing-bayes-theorem/
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#3tldr; priors matter
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#5Oh please. You can do plenty of psuedoscience and superstition with good old frequentist statistics. And of all the people you could pick to represent Bayesian statistics, instead of I don't know, Andrew Gelman or someone, the author picks... Eliezer Yudkowsky? If nothing else, this provides inspiration for me to quit procrastinating on my "ASK ME ABOUT ROKO'S BASILISK" novelty t-shirt idea.
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#6> In many cases, estimating the prior is just guesswork, allowing subjective factors to creep into your calculations. You might be guessing the probability of something that--unlike cancer—does not even exist, such as strings, multiverses, inflation or God. You might then cite dubious evidence to support your dubious belief. In this way, Bayes’ theorem can promote pseudoscience and superstition as well as reason. Oh…
That's not really the point. The article is simply saying that Bayesian methods are not a silver bullet; it's not saying that other methods of statistics are free from problems.
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#7> The potential for Bayes abuse begins with P(B), your initial estimate of the probability of your belief, often called the “prior.” tldr; priors matter
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#8But, in practice all we have are measurements, and from that we want to find an optimal (or good) estimate for what the events were. Hence, inversion.
Bayes formula expresses P(x|y) in terms of P(Y|x), so you can perform the inversion using bayes.
In many fields establishing the prior is difficult, hence frequentist methods are popular.
There are many techniques for the statistical inversion problem. Trying to track a ballistic object in a vacuum? Fit the measurements to a second order polynomial (parabola) and you are done (well, you have to decide least squares vs robust methods, but it is not such a hard problem in the scheme of things). Trying to track a manuevering jet, stock prices, or disease incidence rates. Now your model of the problem is much less clear.
We model lack of information as random variables. It isn't "random" in the deterministic sense, just in the sense that we don't know. Establish a good probabilistic description of that lack of knowledge in your prior, and you are probably going to get good result: this jet fighter is probabilisticly either moving straight, performing a coordinated turn, or performing an uncoordinated turn. Use a Markov chain to model those likelihoods (e.g.), and you may end up with good results. But if your modeling of the prior is poor, well, good luck to you, your output is probably nonsense.
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#9> In many cases, estimating the prior is just guesswork, allowing subjective factors to creep into your calculations. You might be guessing the probability of something that--unlike cancer—does not even exist, such as strings, multiverses, inflation or God. You might then cite dubious evidence to support your dubious belief. In this way, Bayes’ theorem can promote pseudoscience and superstition as well as reason. Oh…
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#10Read through most of the article just for "people can abuse priors"? Come on. Anything, used wrongly, can promote superstition and pseudoscience.