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Why the 2012 non-Retina MacBook Pro still sells

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Re: Why the 2012 non-Retina MacBook Pro still sells

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I want an ARM MacBook as that implies OS X on ARM which means an iPad Pro should be able to dual boot

ARM is not magic. I bet that as soon as it performs in the same range as an x86 under OSX, power consumption will be similar. You may feel better the ISA is neater, and that it may be Windows-proof, but that's about all you'll have.

it may be Windows-proof

Fear not, Windows runs on ARM and has done for several years.

https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/b8/2012/02/09/building-wind...

Re: Why the 2012 non-Retina MacBook Pro still sells

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Let's see how that Lenovo is in five years.

Is this a joke? I have a Lenovo-produced T60 in its tenth year in daily use. I also still have its predecessor, a T43 labeled IBM (but manufactured by Lenovo) in regular use, but by my sister. Lenovo has a lot of problems, but they're every bit as capable of making a durable product as Apple.

T60 was also my first Hackintosh. Mine is still in service too, though just doing some light duty.

Re: Why the 2012 non-Retina MacBook Pro still sells

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The built-in ethernet is the biggest selling point for me. My work often requires me to plug into various devices via wired ethernet and it's almost guaranteed I would forget/lose an adapter one day. If the 2008 macbook I've used every day since I bought it new fails, and the spare I got from a rich client who felt the need to upgrade also fails, I would probably consider buying 2012 version.

I cannot believe this ... I read it here in your comment and I read it in the article ...

This is the only mac laptop available with an ethernet port ? Seriously ?

The current large size (15", right ?) macbook pro does not have an RJ45 port ?

Re: Why the 2012 non-Retina MacBook Pro still sells

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This 2012 MacBook has been a cult hit amongst doctors and other medical professionals that I support, largely because patient information is still transferred via CD or DVD.

Also, for reasons I don't understand, if you are a parent you just have DVDs. I don't know why. I don't buy DVDs for my kids ... but we just have them. And more keep coming.

Re: Why the 2012 non-Retina MacBook Pro still sells

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The built-in ethernet is the biggest selling point for me. My work often requires me to plug into various devices via wired ethernet and it's almost guaranteed I would forget/lose an adapter one day. If the 2008 macbook I've used every day since I bought it new fails, and the spare I got from a rich client who felt the need to upgrade also fails, I would probably consider buying 2012 version.

I cannot believe this ... I read it here in your comment and I read it in the article ... This is the only mac laptop available with an ethernet port ? Seriously ? The current large size (15", right ?) macbook pro does not have an RJ45 port ?

Right. The laptop is too thin to fit one.

Re: Why the 2012 non-Retina MacBook Pro still sells

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All the bad things people are saying/ implying about the new MacBook are completely right! But the truth is, I wouldn't trade mine for anything, because I love the fact that it's incredibly light and does not have a fan. I have many, many, MacBook Airs and mac pros, but the MacBook Air has always seemed to have a problem with the fan going on at random. Now that there's no fan, I'm a very happy developer.

Re: Why the 2012 non-Retina MacBook Pro still sells

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> It’s very inexpensive, even when specced up. $1400 buys the fastest CPU, 8 GB of RAM, and a 1 TB disk from Apple I had to laugh a little at this. $900 bought me a 5th gen i7, 16gb RAM, 1TB SSD and 256gb SSD. I do have to suffer through w10 and a lenovo backdoor though.

Yeah, I can't argue with the rest of the article, but that line sounded strange to me. I understand paying a premium price for a modern MBP (I paid a similar price for a Windows ultrabook that has lasted me a long time,) but $1400 for a laptop that even the author admits is mediocre is not "very inexpensive." It seems a lot like people who buy the 2012 MBP are doing it for brand recognition alone and they would be be…

The article did mention they do development. If it's OSX/iOS development, "inexpensive" probably actually means "inexpensive for an OSX-running laptop."

(And not just "inexpensive for an OSX-running device"; there's always Mac Minis if that's what you want.)

Re: Why the 2012 non-Retina MacBook Pro still sells

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post #50

The built-in ethernet is the biggest selling point for me. My work often requires me to plug into various devices via wired ethernet and it's almost guaranteed I would forget/lose an adapter one day. If the 2008 macbook I've used every day since I bought it new fails, and the spare I got from a rich client who felt the need to upgrade also fails, I would probably consider buying 2012 version.

I cannot believe this ... I read it here in your comment and I read it in the article ... This is the only mac laptop available with an ethernet port ? Seriously ? The current large size (15", right ?) macbook pro does not have an RJ45 port ?

You can look up a picture, but to paint one more evocatively through description: there's about 2mm of metal casing above and below the USB ports. The sides are effectively one USB-port high. RJ-45 ain't gonna fit.

Re: Why the 2012 non-Retina MacBook Pro still sells

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post #45

This 2012 MacBook has been a cult hit amongst doctors and other medical professionals that I support, largely because patient information is still transferred via CD or DVD.

Makes me think that there could be a business in making a snap-in case for the 12" MacBook to add an optical drive, extra battery, Ethernet, etc.

Interesting thought. I could picture it for an iPad Pro as well: a "docking station" with peripherals, that is itself portable. You could market it primarily as an extra battery, the way those "portable USB chargers" work.
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