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Re: Netflix is on Fire

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Post by soneca »

I don't think online reviews are a good reference for TV shows. My impression is that, different of movies, only fans do reviews. So the average TV show rating is much higher than for movies.

And I also have the impression that Netflix shows have a stronger "fan review only" effect, as you must be proactive to start watching that show on the first place.

Another effect is that for movies, after you decide to watch it is easier to get to the end even if you are not liking (more so if you are on a theater). So most people watched 100% of the content. If you don't like a show, you do not pass the first episode. So if you did not watched more than 10% of content, I assume you won't feel confortable with giving a negative review.

So that is why I dont trust reviews for TV shows

Re: Netflix is on Fire

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Post by chris_wot »

revelation wrote: post #49
feld wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What are you talking about?

Netflix has sold distribution rights abroad to some of their own shows such as House of Cards, then entered the market shortly after. As a result, you can now subscribe to Netflix in these markets and not get access to their own programming. Yes, it is as terrible as it sounds.

And yet, you can get around those restrictions quite easily.

Re: Netflix is on Fire

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Post by sbarre »

ctz wrote: post #53
alykhalid wrote: post #42

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Netflix has a different catalogue for each country they serve.

I recently learned this first hand. Even more confusingly, your account is not attached to your country of payment but instead done by geoip, so travelling will mean you likely can't continue to watch the same series. This is a major ballache. Even netflix support don't realise this.

I'm sure they totally realize it, but it's not something a front-line support agent can really do anything about, so why get into that conversation with a customer who won't care about the why and will just see it as a crappy experience (which it totally is)!

Re: Netflix is on Fire

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Post by facetube »

quarterto wrote: post #33
tylermauthe wrote: post #25

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I thought you had to pay the tax for any screen, regardless of where the content comes from?

Only if you're going to watch live TV on it. Doesn't matter where it comes from (iPlayer live or a bit of wire on top of your house).

From http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/ss/Satellite?blobcol=urldata&bl...:

"1.3 Note also that “received” means receiving a TV programme as it is being broadcast on TV. It does not include receiving programmes by means of a DVD or the on-demand elements of services such as i-Player."

Re: Netflix is on Fire

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Post by api »

Hollywood is ripe for disruption. They remind me of the old 1970s auto industry: fat, happy, and stagnant. They don't do "plot" anymore, churning out nothing but totally formulaic rehashes and reboots and franchise flicks. I don't think viewers are as dumb as Hollywood thinks. Hollywood gets away with this schlock because they have little competition at the high end of film making.

Netflix can do what the Japanese autos did: start at the lower end with good but inexpensive TV shows and then eat up the value chain until they are producing blockbuster flicks of superior quality at a lower price. Give me a great blockbuster movie with an actual plot and actual dramatic tension and it's game over.

Re: Netflix is on Fire

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Post by thomasahle »

Zekio wrote: post #5
lostcolony wrote: post #3

Another interesting thing to see is the response by a lot of those inside the television content industry. Many of the companies that produce content are retooling and reorganizing specifically to deliver that content over the internet. None of them want to use Netflix, instead wanting their own service, but the growth of such streaming services has emboldened them. They both see that it's possible to go directly to…

Sadly in some countries such as Denmark, there are some TV licensing fees you can't stop paying, because you can access the content online... Even if you never intend to use it.

Just the national broadcasting though, which is not much different from how you pay for highways, even if you don't have a car.

Re: Netflix is on Fire

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Post by nickff »

sbarre wrote: post #63
ctz wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I recently learned this first hand. Even more confusingly, your account is not attached to your country of payment but instead done by geoip, so travelling will mean you likely can't continue to watch the same series. This is a major ballache. Even netflix support don't realise this.

I'm sure they totally realize it, but it's not something a front-line support agent can really do anything about, so why get into that conversation with a customer who won't care about the why and will just see it as a crappy experience (which it totally is)!

They are not able to do anything about it though; they do not have global licenses for their content.

Re: Netflix is on Fire

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Post by scriptdevil »

sbarre wrote: post #63
ctz wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I recently learned this first hand. Even more confusingly, your account is not attached to your country of payment but instead done by geoip, so travelling will mean you likely can't continue to watch the same series. This is a major ballache. Even netflix support don't realise this.

I'm sure they totally realize it, but it's not something a front-line support agent can really do anything about, so why get into that conversation with a customer who won't care about the why and will just see it as a crappy experience (which it totally is)!

If this was possible, I would get a friend of mine in USA to pay for my account. People complain about piracy in India and do not understand that torrents and streaming sites are currently my only source for good TV series. I am readily willing to pay even $40 a month for such a service.

Re: Netflix is on Fire

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Post by toyg »

sbarre wrote: post #58
RottenHuman wrote: post #50

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>The media industry is so backward. I can't believe most of them still live in the 90s and these problems haven't been solved yet. Part of the problem is the broken status of international copyright law and the many incompatible local laws and regulations. If the international community could at least settle for an standard approach to digital distribution over the internet, the world would be a happier place for con…

Is it really copyright law, or is it business-driven content deals? Content publishers make separate deals with distributors (cable & satellite) along their service-area borders, and can therefore sell the same content multiple times over to different regions, most likely charging pricing based on income levels and audience size, etc.. And no doubt a lot of these deals are exclusive, or at the very least timed exclus…

Ostensibly, this market fragmentation was forced by legislative fragmentation. However, excuses are wearing thin: the EU market, for example, is now unique, if distributors actually wanted it to be. But they don't. Because distributors are the fat middlemen without a real future in the digital economy, so they'll try to squeeze every last drop of cash before they're forced out, exploiting every monopoly and every loophole they can. It's up to productions and audiences to bypass them as much as they can.

Re: Netflix is on Fire

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Post by in_cahoots »

Looking at the top series, they're all semi-obscure or obscure, early seasons of very new shows. This means they follow some key trends: obscure things typically have higher ratings in general than the mainstream, because you're unlikely to hear about them / watch them if you're not already in some narrow niche. Compare that to something like The Big Bang Theory, where people watch it just because it's on.

Ratings also tend to go down as a show matures, both as the quality and novelty drop off (even The Wire has its critics of the last season) and as the show is exposed to a wider audience.

Taking this into account, I don't think user ratings are the best measure of a show's appeal.

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