All companies doing business in a country have to abide by the laws of that country. What's the big deal?
If anything, I'm surprised to learn it wasn't already the case.
Bing Goes Full-On Censorship in English Search Results Within China
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#22I am trying to understand what the purpose of this blockade is? By the way here is a great talk about how the Great Firewall works https://media.ccc.de/v/32c3-7196-how_the_great_firewall_disc... by CCC the biggest European Computer Club ;)
I think mostly it is for political related contents. Especially things like this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiananmen_Square_protests_of_1... and this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liu_Xiaobo
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#23It's not just China: http://www.economist.com/blogs/analects/2014/02/internet-cen... I still remember when Google exited China and Microsoft tried to take advantage of that by being an even bigger lapdog than it was before to the Chinese government. Unfortunately for Microsoft, that didn't even work in gaining it more market share, so it may have been trying to please its Chinese masters for nothing: http://www.reute…
Any source about this "voluntary PRISM-like setup for the NSA"? And that this thing was the hack vector?
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#24I cannot believe after all these years China is still banning the whole site instead of using some keyword or content-based method. Not that those methods are right, but at least it would save a lot of programmers and researchers time. How can people make progress on anything related to scientific research without the help of Wikipedia? seven years ago I was a college student in China and I sure remembered how I have to set up VPN to check on wikipedia pages for my thesis. And needless to say, the school doesn't have the up-to-date paper collection from either IEEE or ACM. I have to directly visit the author's sites. I really wish the government could realize how harmful this is to innovation...
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#25I wonder if someone at Bing, ordered to do that, deliberately overdid it to make it clear Bing was censoring.
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#26All companies doing business in a country have to abide by the laws of that country. What's the big deal? If anything, I'm surprised to learn it wasn't already the case.
There's a difference between "following the law" and eagerly participating in state-sponsored censorship.
There's also the fact that, in countries with basic human rights codified in their constitutions (i.e. most of the Western world), companies like Apple, Google, and Microsoft make a lot of noise about protecting the rights of their users. But in less free nations, they tend to silently flip to the other side and go out of their way to appease the governments of those nations, especially wealthy ones like China. Hence the ease with which their services are manipulated in those countries.
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#27It's not just China: http://www.economist.com/blogs/analects/2014/02/internet-cen... I still remember when Google exited China and Microsoft tried to take advantage of that by being an even bigger lapdog than it was before to the Chinese government. Unfortunately for Microsoft, that didn't even work in gaining it more market share, so it may have been trying to please its Chinese masters for nothing: http://www.reute…
Any source about this "voluntary PRISM-like setup for the NSA"? And that this thing was the hack vector?
I assume it's
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/chine...
but it wasn't "PRISM-like", it was an internal database of accounts under court ordered surveillance (in this case, orders specifically "issued under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act"), and it wasn't the attack vector, it was apparently the attack target.
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#28I cannot believe after all these years China is still banning the whole site instead of using some keyword or content-based method. Not that those methods are right, but at least it would save a lot of programmers and researchers time. How can people make progress on anything related to scientific research without the help of Wikipedia? seven years ago I was a college student in China and I sure remembered how I have…
The answer is HTTPS. Unless China can compromise the whole country's OSes by forcing them to install a security certificate that lets them impersonate Wikipedia, Google, etc, they can't block individual pages on sites that only serve over https * They can only block whole sites. Wikipedia forces https sitewide for just this reason. Selective censorship isn't permitted.
Fun fact #1: That's believed to be why the Chinese government orchestrated the attacks against github in April 2015 using the great firewall to distribute infected javascripts via Baidu. They were trying to force github to take two projects offline that were being used to get around the great firewall and gain access to the unedited NY times online. The Chinese government can't selectively block those projects because github enforces https sitewide.
* Fun fact # 2: An intermediary of China Internet Network Information Center (CNNIC) issued several fake certificates for Google-owned domains in March of 2015. Google untrusted the certificates in Chrome and Android and Mozilla did the same in Firefox.
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#29The things Bing will do for market share. I recall they even paid people to use it at one time. I wonder why they still continue to operate in China. They'll never be a factor in China, but are more than happy to bend over backwards to serve state sponsored results for their pittance percentage of search engine market share.
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#30The things Bing will do for market share. I recall they even paid people to use it at one time. I wonder why they still continue to operate in China. They'll never be a factor in China, but are more than happy to bend over backwards to serve state sponsored results for their pittance percentage of search engine market share.
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