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Re: Trails – Modern MVC Web Framework for Node.js

#11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You probably already know but http://www.trailsjs.io/ seems to be parked, why not redirect it to the Github page in the meanwhile?

I'm doing that now :) We hadn't anticipated this much press before our Jan 8 release, so we're caught off-balance a bit. Thanks.

I'd also recommend https://js.org/

Re: Trails – Modern MVC Web Framework for Node.js

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Weird situation with this and Sails right now. Sails.js development has basically stagnated in the past year, and many people in the community believe Balderdash, the company behind it, aren't giving it the attention it deserves (they have a few new projects they're working on). Travis Webb and his team behind Trails were kicked out of Balderdash (not clear if fired from the company or just removed from GitHub group)…

> Hopefully this turns out like the node / io.js split and is, in the end, positive for the ecosystem in some way.

I agree. I commented earlier that the Node community seems to prefer small modules over Rails-like frameworks, but I think a solid web framework would be good for Node adoption by people who prefer them and beginners.

Re: Trails – Modern MVC Web Framework for Node.js

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Weird situation with this and Sails right now. Sails.js development has basically stagnated in the past year, and many people in the community believe Balderdash, the company behind it, aren't giving it the attention it deserves (they have a few new projects they're working on). Travis Webb and his team behind Trails were kicked out of Balderdash (not clear if fired from the company or just removed from GitHub group)…

The last time I checked in on Sails.js about 9 months ago, Mike McNeil, Cody Stoltman, and Scott Gress had just gotten back from YC for Treeline (http://treeline.io).[1]

[1] https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/the-treeline-company

Re: Trails – Modern MVC Web Framework for Node.js

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Weird situation with this and Sails right now. Sails.js development has basically stagnated in the past year, and many people in the community believe Balderdash, the company behind it, aren't giving it the attention it deserves (they have a few new projects they're working on). Travis Webb and his team behind Trails were kicked out of Balderdash (not clear if fired from the company or just removed from GitHub group)…

> Hopefully this turns out like the node / io.js split and is, in the end, positive for the ecosystem in some way. I agree. I commented earlier that the Node community seems to prefer small modules over Rails-like frameworks, but I think a solid web framework would be good for Node adoption by people who prefer them and beginners.

Hopefully. We've actually seen some (mostly superficial) activity in Sails recently, which is surprising and encouraging.

Trails is actually much more modular than Sails. The goal is the same -- to make your life easier -- and the conventions are rails-like (indeed, compatible wiyh Sails) but the technical design is completely different and actually quite a bit more "node-like".

Keep in mind that Trails is not a fork, but a Sails-compatible re-write. So there's no upstream code-level reconciliation that can happen, but I'm sure both projects can coexist and compete in the framework market on their merits.

Re: Trails – Modern MVC Web Framework for Node.js

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All -- Keep in mind that Trails.js is pre-release. We're releasing 1.0-alpha on January 8, which isn't too far away. For more info on our development schedule, see our roadmap: https://github.com/trailsjs/trails/blob/master/ROADMAP.md We'll be giving some talks on Trails the week of Jan 11th; we'll be visiting local Javascript groups in Detroit, Miami, and Los Angeles that week. If you're in the area, come hang out!

I'm interested in the Miami one. Any information?

Re: Trails – Modern MVC Web Framework for Node.js

#18

Weird situation with this and Sails right now. Sails.js development has basically stagnated in the past year, and many people in the community believe Balderdash, the company behind it, aren't giving it the attention it deserves (they have a few new projects they're working on). Travis Webb and his team behind Trails were kicked out of Balderdash (not clear if fired from the company or just removed from GitHub group)…

It will be awhile before it's fully production-ready of course, but we'll begin using it internally for developing new projects after our 1.0-beta release in February.

One note: we're using Hapi by default, but koa and express4 will be supported as well. This is part of our modularity difference.

Re: Trails – Modern MVC Web Framework for Node.js

#19

Weird situation with this and Sails right now. Sails.js development has basically stagnated in the past year, and many people in the community believe Balderdash, the company behind it, aren't giving it the attention it deserves (they have a few new projects they're working on). Travis Webb and his team behind Trails were kicked out of Balderdash (not clear if fired from the company or just removed from GitHub group)…

The last time I checked in on Sails.js about 9 months ago, Mike McNeil, Cody Stoltman, and Scott Gress had just gotten back from YC for Treeline ( http://treeline.io ).[1] [1] https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/the-treeline-company

They are still working on Treeline full-time as far as I know, and for the foreseeable future.

Re: Trails – Modern MVC Web Framework for Node.js

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All -- Keep in mind that Trails.js is pre-release. We're releasing 1.0-alpha on January 8, which isn't too far away. For more info on our development schedule, see our roadmap: https://github.com/trailsjs/trails/blob/master/ROADMAP.md We'll be giving some talks on Trails the week of Jan 11th; we'll be visiting local Javascript groups in Detroit, Miami, and Los Angeles that week. If you're in the area, come hang out!

I'm interested in the Miami one. Any information?

Travis, likewise.. I'm in Boca Raton so Miami is not far away :)
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