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The Developer Formerly Known as FreeBSDGirl
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Re: The Developer Formerly Known as FreeBSDGirl
#52Earlier quoted context omitted.
I noticed that myself. Such actions make the moderators look like they are taking sides.
Why do you believe this was a mod and not users flagging? Given the [flag]-fest below I'd expect the submission itself got a few flags as well.
It's not clear what the difference between mod and user flagging is. It's not clear that it matters. If the users are flagging it, then they are taking sides.
Re: The Developer Formerly Known as FreeBSDGirl
#53Re: The Developer Formerly Known as FreeBSDGirl
#54What the fuck is wrong with these GamerGate idiots? Is it a mental illness or something?
Additionally, what's wrong with FreeBSD? I'd like to hear their take on this. Because while I'm generally highly sceptic of this "everyone needs a CoC now!", the alleged reaction by Core goes much much further and is simply astonishing. Maybe someone needs to explain to them that freedom of association includes freedom not to associate. "His harassment was outside our mailing list" is not a good reason to decline any…
I love FreeBSD! I have a GitHub record to show that! :3 It's my sweet little darling angel. But it's sick. :We need routes to ensure safety and respect for everyone. If someone makes others feel endangered, it is not unreasonable for there to be immediate recourse and resolution. That's what a Code of Conduct is all about.
Re: The Developer Formerly Known as FreeBSDGirl
#55This is why no one will ever take them seriously, by spamming this thread out to their followings in this way they are attempting to create outside focus on the HN community not within it.
I invite you to see how Hacker News responds to an inherent problem with misogyny in open source. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10819778 … https://twitter.com/LilyLemmer/status/682688557018828802
Admittedly really curious to see how the HN community responds to this. https://twitter.com/randileeharper/status/682683554447265792
Re: The Developer Formerly Known as FreeBSDGirl
#56Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why do you believe this was a mod and not users flagging? Given the [flag]-fest below I'd expect the submission itself got a few flags as well.
It's not clear what the difference between mod and user flagging is. It's not clear that it matters. If the users are flagging it, then they are taking sides.
> It's not clear what the difference between mod and user flagging is.
I don't know how many mods there are, but it's a tiny number.
There are very many users who can flag. I think user flagging needs a karma level of 30.
It's a bit rude to say the mods are taking sides if those mods haven't done anything.
Re: The Developer Formerly Known as FreeBSDGirl
#57Re: The Developer Formerly Known as FreeBSDGirl
#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
I went back and counted, there are 6 mentions of GamerGate (not including the tag) and all of them are anecdotal references by FreeBSDGirl. In fact, the primary article in question (the guy that wants to legalize rape) doesn't mention GamerGate at all, or even remotely allude to it. P.S. Thanks for the downvote rather than a reply. It really shows your willingness to talk about issues and not just jump to conclusions…
The guy that wants to legalize rape and the person the article is mainly about are not the same person.
Maybe I need to read a bit better. I don't deny that they are different people, but I guess I thought the linked article was more important than just a side comment.
Re: The Developer Formerly Known as FreeBSDGirl
#59What the fuck is wrong with these GamerGate idiots? Is it a mental illness or something?
Additionally, what's wrong with FreeBSD? I'd like to hear their take on this. Because while I'm generally highly sceptic of this "everyone needs a CoC now!", the alleged reaction by Core goes much much further and is simply astonishing. Maybe someone needs to explain to them that freedom of association includes freedom not to associate. "His harassment was outside our mailing list" is not a good reason to decline any…
If there was a priest who was homosexual, and involved himself with gay-pride rallies on his own time, would you say it is acceptable for the church to excommunicate him since he had "freedom not to associate" with the group?
If don't feel that disallowing personal thinking is good for society.
I also feel that it is possible for people to agree on some topics while disagree on others. Guilt by association should not be the measure we use to judge people. I'd say it is very unlikely that the person who "attacked" Harper also supports the "legalize rape" comment from RooshV.
In my opinion, attempting to draw a connection between RooshV's legalize rape comment and the person the article is about is a slanderous tactic to automatically make him "the enemy" with no evidence. This seems evident when you notice there is no source for any of the tweets made to Harper. This is contrasted with the readily available links provided to support deplorable comments made by RooshV.
Harper makes statements like "He started enlisting the support of his neo-nazi friends." which are obviously being used to create an us/them dichotomy for the reader. "I'm not a horrible racist like the Nazi's, that means I must hate this person who must be a Nazi." the readers would think to themselves.
I have no doubt that some of the content in this article is correct. I am just taken aback by the lack of sources provided, the attempts to slander the "opposition" and the wording of the piece. Being well read on the past of Harper, I would say that the claims have merit, but were blown entirely out of proportion.
I'll happily, and publicly, eat my own words if someone can source proof for her claims. I have no objection to recanting any of this.
Re: The Developer Formerly Known as FreeBSDGirl
#60Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why do you believe this was a mod and not users flagging? Given the [flag]-fest below I'd expect the submission itself got a few flags as well.
It's not clear what the difference between mod and user flagging is. It's not clear that it matters. If the users are flagging it, then they are taking sides.
Not being particularly interested in the moderation processes at hacker news, all I can say is that this flagging and it's effects does not reflect well on hacker news or it's users.
In fact, this sort of feature looks like it's used for supression.
Edited to add, since reply now seems to be broken for me: There is no "enable showdead" in my user profile settings, despite having registered more than a year ago.
I presume one must gather sufficient "community support" before such features are enabled.
What's most here dramatic is the enormous number of downvotes I've gotten for rather mundane and straightforward remarks.