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In Memoriam: Ian Murdock

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Post by samstave »

jacquesm wrote: post #146
keithpeter wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the UK, which is a common law country, the local coroner would be involved with any death that was not expected (i.e. not an older person or someone who is terminally ill and under medical care) or in which there are suspicious circumstances. That process may involve a police investigation and, independently of that, there can be an inquest. Inquests have quite a history in the case of deaths in police custody in…

Yes, a whitewash would never happen in the UK. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hutton_Inquiry

Also this type of whitewash:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-488667/Why-I-know-we...

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Post by throwaway20325 »

cbeach wrote: post #166
finid wrote: post #82

In a tweet, he wrote that "@jacksormwriter wants me dead". I wonder who that is... Source at http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:le7oSCj...

Could be @jackstormwriter, whose account has now been switched to private on Twitter. Here’s what’s in the Google cache for @jackstormwriter: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:https:/...

Seems to be the same person as @writershorde, whose account has also been recently deleted.

Archive.is for longevity:

@jackstormwriter https://archive.is/doJTE

@jackstormwriter commenting on @imurdock's tweet https://archive.is/KTesC

@writershorde https://archive.is/oqN9i

writershorde.wordpress https://archive.is/qv8aG

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Post by srean »

samstave wrote: post #107
specialp wrote: post #70

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Perhaps I could be wrong, but isn't bail returned when one successfully shows up in court until the matter is adjudicated regardless of the outcome? The only way bail is forfeited is when the defendant skips out on returning to court.

The bail was $25,000 - I don't have that in cash. I had to get a bond, and pay out of pocket $2,500. Also, they keep bail, assuming I had paid it in cash in full, for "a year and a day" The cops retain the "right" to charge you for 1 year.

I am sure the cops and the bondsmen have a sweet deal going.

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Post by at-fates-hands »

andy_ppp wrote: post #120
kragen wrote: post #6

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It's a good bet that, when a young person in a highly-developed country dies and the announcements about them do not give a cause of death, they killed themselves. Given that he was white and had announced an intention to kill himself the night before, it's almost an open-and-shut case.

There is an alternative idea that the police accidentally killed him and are trying to make it look like a suicide. They probably had his phone after all. I'd like to see if twitter can get up geocoded info on where those tweets were sent from... If it's the police station rather than Mr Murdock's house... What happens in a case like this where the police are possibly suspects in a death?

>> What happens in a case like this where the police are possibly suspects in a death?

Normally if someone dies while in the custody of police there is automatically an inquest as to what happened. If there's evidence of mistreatment or abuse, the District Attorney can then decide to send the case to a grand jury and let them decide whether they should charge the officers involved. The DA can also indict and charge the officers without a grand jury. In most cases, DA's send their cases to the grand jury in effect to "test" how strong the evidence is they have.

In the Ferguson case, the grand jury waded through thousands of documents and decided the conflicting witnesses testimonies and physical evidence made them decide not to indict officer Wilson for the shooting.

Even if the DA decides not to prosecute (for whatever reason), then the family can hire an attorney and file a wrongful death case (violation of constitutional rights) as a civil suit against the city. Civil cases also have a lot lower burden of proof or what we call "the preponderance of the evidence" meaning its more likely something than not something happened.

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