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Re: Live from the Apple 'latest creation' event

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Post by thaumaturgy »

aresant wrote: post #61
thaumaturgy wrote: post #59

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Hmm. So, we've got a handheld device with a slick UI, that can be used for video, audio, email, games, and reading, has a long battery life, and reasonable performance ... the first iteration of the mythical "tablet" that everyone's been talking about for two years now ... and the general reaction is that it's too much like a fancy Walkman?

Point well taken! But I'd argue that "the first iteration of the mythical "tablet" was the iphone 3GS. It's smaller form factor makes it the more exciting (and marketable) tool. BUT - reserving judgement for Steve's infamous WOW moment (fingers crossed). A dock, awesome multitouch, or something along those lines would help a lot.

From Engadget:

> 10:18AM "Now if I want to send a message, I hit compose -- up pops this gorgeous keyboard." Steve is typing, it looks very responsive.

I would be extremely disappointed in Apple if they produced a device that was supposed to be capable of handling email, and you couldn't type on it. I suspect they've managed to solve the multi-touch/OSD keyboard problem somehow, which would be neat.

Re: Live from the Apple 'latest creation' event

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Post by waterlesscloud »

GHFigs wrote: post #63
aresant wrote: post #31

Waiting on that wow moment, still basically just a huge ipod touch . . .

You mean it's still basically like devices that Apple sold about 10+ million of last quarter?

Yes, so why the attention to the 10 millionth and 1st? It's just more of the same.

Re: Live from the Apple 'latest creation' event

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Post by awa »

sliverstorm wrote: post #84
awa wrote: post #51

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Why is writing with a stylus imperfect... I have been using a tablet for a year and used it exclusively for note taking during my last semester in school last year... I was on Vista and onenote and it worked out great! The handwriting recognition was good and the reaction time of the one note page was as good as a real pen and paper. With a pure tablet like ipad (no physical keyboard) I would expect the stylus to be…

The pointer is never as precise as I want it to be- mine is always a few pixels off, and every other tablet I've tried has been worse. You can argue or justify etc all you like, but I have always found this very disorienting. Handwriting recognition is also approaching perfection, but it's not quite close enough yet. Maybe for some people with good handwriting it is 'there', but I'm not one of them, and I have to sto…

I would have liked a touch+stylus screen, if wacom can do it apple should be able to do it too

Re: Live from the Apple 'latest creation' event

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Post by unexpected »

rinich wrote: post #90
aresant wrote: post #61

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Point well taken! But I'd argue that "the first iteration of the mythical "tablet" was the iphone 3GS. It's smaller form factor makes it the more exciting (and marketable) tool. BUT - reserving judgement for Steve's infamous WOW moment (fingers crossed). A dock, awesome multitouch, or something along those lines would help a lot.

More marketable? Hardly. My mother wants something that she can lie down on a couch with, read books, check email, be relaxed. You can't do that in the iPod comfortably. Note that Steve's doing all this in a comfy chair. That's what this is. It's a comfy chair device.

This is basically a crunchpad - but it's probably be going to be $1000. Yes this device has a niche, but it depends on the price point...

Re: Live from the Apple 'latest creation' event

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Post by blahedo »

sliverstorm wrote: post #35

Normally I don't get excited about apple products. I wasn't super excited about this one either, but I was looking forward to seeing apple 'fix' tablets- that is to say, fix text entry and make a tablet computer more viable. Tablets can keep up with regular computers on everything, except text entry. Writing with a stylus is still imperfect, and so are touchscreen keyboards. Long emails, command prompt usage, and ess…

Surely something like Dasher would work fine on this device---why aren't we seeing more of that (or other similarly clever input techniques)?

Re: Live from the Apple 'latest creation' event

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Post by rinich »

unexpected wrote: post #105
rinich wrote: post #90

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More marketable? Hardly. My mother wants something that she can lie down on a couch with, read books, check email, be relaxed. You can't do that in the iPod comfortably. Note that Steve's doing all this in a comfy chair. That's what this is. It's a comfy chair device.

This is basically a crunchpad - but it's probably be going to be $1000. Yes this device has a niche, but it depends on the price point...

I know, right? TechCrunch has such an extensive history of creating brilliant, usable interfaces?

But you're wrong. This doesn't have a niche. This is going to replace many, many niches. This is going to be what people buy instead of laptops. Unless I'm a hardcore user that needs pro tools, this will do everything I want a computer to do. And it will do it sexier, and sleeker, and it won't have any of the rough edges that my laptop does.

Re: Live from the Apple 'latest creation' event

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Post by thaumaturgy »

alttab wrote: post #86
timmaah wrote: post #44

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Nice and locked down with only Apple approved apps. Do not want.

Another wave of developers trying to make it rich by going through the AppStore. Let the nightmares begin? The minute there is no middle man on a competent mobile device (Android is getting there), Apple could lose a lot of business.

There are plenty of other MP3 players out there, but they haven't hurt the iPod (much).

Google is great at certain things, but UI is not one of them. Their user experience suffers the Linux Problem: it's perpetually unfinished and incomplete, and regular computer users just don't like it. (Techs love it though.)

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