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Major Linux Problems on the Desktop, 2016 Edition

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Re: Major Linux Problems on the Desktop, 2016 Edition

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Post by zitterbewegung »

edtechdev wrote: post #9

I've been using Ubuntu Linux as my primary OS since 2006, and I can't disagree with many of the annoyances. Especially with regards to graphics drivers and the switch to the Unity desktop. I tried Linux Mint with the Cinnamon desktop and it is nicer, but couldn't commit to it I guess. But everytime I use Windows and Macs again, I get even more annoyed. Mainly with how slow things are. Even on a new Windows 10 desktop…

I have my things backed up on the cloud and I used linux for awhile for my development system. Apparently for MacBooks there is something screwed up with ACPI so that it won't suspend correctly. Also, every time I would run out of battery the system would have problems booting up. Eventually I went back to Mac OS X after running the computer out of battery and then having it unable to start.

Re: Major Linux Problems on the Desktop, 2016 Edition

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Post by lvs »

jjuhl wrote: post #6

To me this reads as "I can't use hardware xyz on linux". Well, that's no surprise. There's "wxy" hardware that you can't use with Windows or OS X as well. Today Linux supports the same amount (or more) hardware that Windows does. Hardware support is not a reason to use or not use Linux. The software ecosystem is much more important - not to mention the freedom aspect...

No, there's no consumer-level desktop hardware you can't use on either Windows or OS X or both. That's false.

Hardware support is indeed a reason not to use Linux, but the question is who needs to pick up the slack. With other operating systems, manufacturers put (more or less) effort into writing device drivers that are functional. With Linux, they really do not. It's a large and moving target, and the market value of doing so is not clear to them.

Re: Major Linux Problems on the Desktop, 2016 Edition

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Post by eropple »

edtechdev wrote: post #9

I've been using Ubuntu Linux as my primary OS since 2006, and I can't disagree with many of the annoyances. Especially with regards to graphics drivers and the switch to the Unity desktop. I tried Linux Mint with the Cinnamon desktop and it is nicer, but couldn't commit to it I guess. But everytime I use Windows and Macs again, I get even more annoyed. Mainly with how slow things are. Even on a new Windows 10 desktop…

FWIW -- I have my own complaints about OS X (a lot of them), but I can't remember the last time I got beachballed, certainly not something like typing a URL.

Re: Major Linux Problems on the Desktop, 2016 Edition

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Post by jschwartzi »

crgabrieljr wrote: post #8

Tried double-tapping in the article text to get it to reflow, and got one of those bogus popups claiming my phone is infected with a virus. Thanks for trying to make my new year interesting. :-(

Me too. I can't read the article at all because of it.

Re: Major Linux Problems on the Desktop, 2016 Edition

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Post by geggam »

eropple wrote: post #15
edtechdev wrote: post #9

I've been using Ubuntu Linux as my primary OS since 2006, and I can't disagree with many of the annoyances. Especially with regards to graphics drivers and the switch to the Unity desktop. I tried Linux Mint with the Cinnamon desktop and it is nicer, but couldn't commit to it I guess. But everytime I use Windows and Macs again, I get even more annoyed. Mainly with how slow things are. Even on a new Windows 10 desktop…

FWIW -- I have my own complaints about OS X (a lot of them), but I can't remember the last time I got beachballed, certainly not something like typing a URL.

The entry level mac mini is terrible and beach balls surfing. I am surprised they sell it. ( cant upgrade the memory either )

Re: Major Linux Problems on the Desktop, 2016 Edition

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Post by wvenable »

edtechdev wrote: post #9

I've been using Ubuntu Linux as my primary OS since 2006, and I can't disagree with many of the annoyances. Especially with regards to graphics drivers and the switch to the Unity desktop. I tried Linux Mint with the Cinnamon desktop and it is nicer, but couldn't commit to it I guess. But everytime I use Windows and Macs again, I get even more annoyed. Mainly with how slow things are. Even on a new Windows 10 desktop…

> it's not uncommon to have to wait minutes for things to settle down after booting and logging in

This is no longer my experience with Windows on an SSD. I'm always a bit shocked when I reboot and I'm back at my desktop in under 30 seconds.

On a machine without an SSD, I'm annoyed at how slow everything is -- not just booting.

Re: Major Linux Problems on the Desktop, 2016 Edition

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Post by condescendence »

I don't get articles like these.

First of all this website is worse than any OS environment I've ever used. So right from that standpoint I sorta gulped a bit before reading on.

Graphics driver issues in linux are nothing new, Nvidia a few years back started officially porting drivers to linux but that doesn't solve all the problems. There's also projects like Nouveau; so if you're complaining about linux desktop from a drivers standpoint....get in line.

As for the Windows issues:

>Windows boot problems are often fatal and unsolvable unless you reinstall from scratch

Someone has never used Hirens boot disk

>no system wide update mechanism

wat

>no enforced file system and registry hierarchy

wat

>Android is not Linux (besides have you seen anyone running Android on their desktop or laptop?)

Actually yes I have, I have it running on mine now. Android-x86 Project. At first I'll agree Android was not linux, there were some major differences but these have since been changed.

I'm sorry if this is nitpicking the post but my I don't understand how these make it to the top of HN

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