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Re: os.js: JavaScript Cloud/Web Desktop Platform

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Post by rmchugh »

lumpypua wrote: post #65
stephenr wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wish more front-end dev's would focus on this.

I agree, but I'm two months behind on implementing important features. While I can take a week here and there to optimize, my time is best spent delivering business value. Unless you allow performance to genuinely suck (and I don't) slimming down web apps won't help my business make money. You get what current fashionable JS frameworks and build tools give me.

also, page size is not the biggest performance killer. too many http requests (for example, requests out to CDNs and advertising networks) is a more likely source of problems.

Re: os.js: JavaScript Cloud/Web Desktop Platform

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Post by digitalsurgeon »

mkawia wrote: post #22

The whole thing is 194KB ,a normal TODOmvc demo of your favourite Js framework goes above 250KB . Really Impressive stuff. really motivates to build slimmer web apps

amazing that its 194kb and you think this is very small. what world are ver living in that web development has made us so sloppy and inefficient, when MB's of script downloads are considered slim.

Re: os.js: JavaScript Cloud/Web Desktop Platform

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Post by tga »

stephenr wrote: post #62
tga wrote: post #49

An example for the "why" question -- the "web desktop with apps" style seems to work for NAS control panels (namely QNAP and Synology). As far as I know, they are using Sencha ExtJS for the UI -- which, although pretty complete and mature, doesn't get a lot of developer love. https://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&q=qnap+control+panel https://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&q=synology+control+pa... Here is a QNAP demo…

It's not really clear to me what functional, or even user experience benefit there is from having "draggable windows" in something like that?

I couldn't say really, can't say I'm a big fan, but it's relevant that multiple big companies are using this kind of interface. I would hope they have some reasons beyond UI flashiness and copying their competitors.

Whatever the reasons, when a customer says "build me one of those" it's useful to have a good library to call upon.

Re: os.js: JavaScript Cloud/Web Desktop Platform

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Post by delan »

2016 is less than 48 hours away. Why is curl http:// | sh still a thing? Why is the Windows installer delivered without HTTPS, and does it really have no digital signature, or have I been MITM’d? I don’t know about you, but I wouldn’t touch this with a barge pole, let alone a computer.

Re: os.js: JavaScript Cloud/Web Desktop Platform

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Post by jacisnonsense »

delan wrote: post #75

2016 is less than 48 hours away. Why is curl http:// | sh still a thing? Why is the Windows installer delivered without HTTPS, and does it really have no digital signature, or have I been MITM’d? I don’t know about you, but I wouldn’t touch this with a barge pole, let alone a computer.

because everyone knows that curl http:// | sh is the most async

Re: os.js: JavaScript Cloud/Web Desktop Platform

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Post by mattlutze »

lumpypua wrote: post #65
stephenr wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wish more front-end dev's would focus on this.

I agree, but I'm two months behind on implementing important features. While I can take a week here and there to optimize, my time is best spent delivering business value. Unless you allow performance to genuinely suck (and I don't) slimming down web apps won't help my business make money. You get what current fashionable JS frameworks and build tools give me.

As long as your customers are in the vast majority accessing your web apps over non-cellular data connections this makes sense. As more folks are cell-phone-first, ignoring the size of the payload you expect users to accept will increasingly represent a sub-optimal experience.

Re: os.js: JavaScript Cloud/Web Desktop Platform

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Post by bmj »

amelius wrote: post #69
mkawia wrote: post #22

The whole thing is 194KB ,a normal TODOmvc demo of your favourite Js framework goes above 250KB . Really Impressive stuff. really motivates to build slimmer web apps

Very nice. But are you sure it doesn't load things in the background, as needed? In fact, if it didn't do this, I'd be disappointed :)

It appears that it is mostly assets and graphics that are being loaded dynamically.

Re: os.js: JavaScript Cloud/Web Desktop Platform

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Post by wangii »

keithwhor wrote: post #50
callesgg wrote: post #46

I cant really see any good use cases. But WOW am i impressed that, is one of the cooler things i have seen on the web.

Always cool to see these in action, but multiple "online desktops" have come and gone since the mid-2000s. I personally built one myself in 2010 only to realize it had been tried and failed a few times. My next instinct was that to get attention and attract users I'd need a mobile-style UI. My instincts were wrong, and your gut is right. There wasn't a strong enough use case. The motivator for these projects is typic…

well said indeed!

unfortunately, this kind of understanding can only be obtained through failures.

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