Earlier quoted context omitted.
Aren't is a contraction and means are not. You could have googled that in less time than it took to post your comment.
Do you seriously think my question was about english?
What was it about?
How three teenagers invented an app to police the cops
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Re: How three teenagers invented an app to police the cops
#122Earlier quoted context omitted.
Stop and contact is entirely warranted, IMO. You added maim or jail.
I'll leave it at imperil. You can argue skewed coverage, but from where I sit, being approached by police in the situation described seems extremely dangerous.
I agree that there's danger there, but what's the workable alternative? Never stop and contact anyone until their identity or involvement can be 100% verified prior to contact?
Re: How three teenagers invented an app to police the cops
#123Earlier quoted context omitted.
Because as other countries have shown, it's possible to resolve a situation WITHOUT having to resort to lethal force. But then again, you get stuff like this https://photographyisnotacrime.com/2015/12/los-angeles-deput... Crime is correlated to localized socioeconomic situations. FTFY.
Please, show how other countries addressed similar crime rates without lethal force. Single occurences are irrelevant if we're talking about trends. I can conjure an emotional story to prove any possible outlook on this problem. Yes, crime is correlated to socioeconomic situations, that doesn't contradict anything in my comment.
This isn't that hard to find. Here's a quick one.
http://www.takepart.com/article/2015/06/29/many-countries-po...
ryana posted a link re crime rates not really making a difference.
"While some have blamed violent crime for being responsible for police violence in some communities, data shows that high levels of violent crime in cities did not appear to make it any more or less likely for police departments to kill people."
Your turn to back up your claim that "Crime rate is correlated with amount of situations where use of lethal force is necessary."
Re: How three teenagers invented an app to police the cops
#124Since the author of the article did not even bother linking to the teenagers' website or even showing some screenshots of the app, here are some links: - The Five-O app on Pinetart Inc. (the teenagers' company) website: http://pinetartinc.com/?p=44 - The Five-O app on Google Play: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.five_o - The "international contest for justice-related initiatives" mentioned in the ar…
It's a fundamental failure of journalism posted on the Internet to not actually link to the subject of your reporting.
The Economist tends not to include links in their articles; no idea why
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I'd be a bit late to that party. http://bigstory.ap.org/article/8632c929c3ba4773a2e130689f4b8... http://consumerist.com/2014/05/19/private-companies-building... http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/investigative/2014/09/06/st... https://desertsnow.com/ https://bales.org/
ugh, oh god
HN really freaks me out sometimes!
Re: How three teenagers invented an app to police the cops
#126Earlier quoted context omitted.
Aren't is a contraction and means are not. You could have googled that in less time than it took to post your comment.
Do you seriously think my question was about english?
Yes, What else could it possibly have been about? You don't seem to be a native English speaker, so I thought you didn't understand what "aren't means.
It's a bit curious that you haven't answered my original question, or come back with anything substantive apart from expressing surprise at someone not understanding what you meant by "Aren't?"
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Often, I experience it as deliberate. There is so much rehashing; if you link to the source, people may simply go there -- especially if it proves to be better than your hash.
If the hash is reversible then it's not a hash!
Reencrypting?... Nah.
(Looks into a dictionary.)
Turns out we already have a word for that. Regurgitating.
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#128Earlier quoted context omitted.
I assure you that in my example the problem is totally random - it is my example after all :). In the US it's probably less so. Institutional issues one can deal with, but what to do about "personal biases of the individuals involved (conscious or subconscious)"? We can try to minimize it, but one has to accept that it'll hit diminishing returns after some time. But my point was about 'rrmm wrote - that "Getting ever…
>you have to be 100% totally damn sure that there is a problem in a first place and that you're not inventing it Sounds a lot like a 'no true Scotsman' fallacy. Everything from apartments to restaurants to taxi and semi drivers have ratings or a feedback system and it hasn't brought any of those systems to a grinding halt.
It's not about finding a true Scotsman - it's about allocating resources to fighting real problems instead of imaginary ones.
Ratings systems are not a silver bullet either - they're often easy to game (products) or measure wrong things (restaurants); users can be pressured into giving a good rating (employee interaction rating machines at border control, which you have to press while still in front of the officer) or bosses can use them to control employees (a known not-exactly-a-taxi, semi-illegal company I won't name). Particular failure modes depend on small details about the rating system - whether it's immediate or delayed, anonymous or not, relevant to the other side's career or not, etc. - but there are always some.
Ratings and feedback in general are a good concept, but you can't just take a "SELECT AVG(rate) FROM policeman WHERE rate < 3" an run to the nearest CNN office to talk about how things are very bad. You have to stop and consider all issues of a given implementation of a rating system, and there are quite many of those.
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#129Earlier quoted context omitted.
Temporal said 'criminal', not 'fatal', and gave the example of 'maimed or fatal'. There are also non-fatal, non-injurious ways to be criminal in policing.
Technically yes, but they also gave an example of a serious, non-fatal, non-injurious way of being criminal in policing ("terrorizing innocents at gunpoint") and classified that outside of the 1 in 10 000 frequency.
I didn't mean literal "criminal" as in criminal law vs. civil law, I was aiming for differentiating between things that seriously stress you up at worst, and things that leave you (or your family, or your dog) with damaged health or property. Bad choice of words on my part.
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#130Earlier quoted context omitted.
Stop and contact is entirely warranted, IMO. You added maim or jail.
I'll leave it at imperil. You can argue skewed coverage, but from where I sit, being approached by police in the situation described seems extremely dangerous.
We're already into several iterations of the feedback loop. In a world where police works properly, you should not be afraid of being approached by them in the first place. An officer should ask you a few questions in a civilized manner, the whole encounter going like two adults talking about their common interest (catching the bad guy).
So coming and approaching is the right thing, but we need to work on reducing fear both sides have of each other first.