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Linode is suffering on-going DDoS attacks

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Re: Linode is suffering on-going DDoS attacks

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post #28

Yep, this started on Friday (Christmas day). I assume Linode itself is the target of the attacks, since they have spanned multiple regions.

Dallas is their oldest DC, so they have the most customers there and therefore the most attack surface area at that location. It could just as easily be one of their customers.

The DDOS has hit their data centers in Dallas, Fremont, London, Newark, Atlanta, and Singapore since Christmas.

Re: Linode is suffering on-going DDoS attacks

#42

Yep, this started on Friday (Christmas day). I assume Linode itself is the target of the attacks, since they have spanned multiple regions.

I wonder if the attackers chose Christmas day in order to ensure that there were fewer Linode engineers available to stop the attack.

Re: Linode is suffering on-going DDoS attacks

#43
post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have a hard time imagining how supporting multiple providers would cost millions of dollars per year. I think it's a worthwhile way to make your software and infrastructure more resilient. And it protects you from vendor lock-in. As long as you keep things simple and don't use features that are only implemented by one provider, VMs are basically interchangeable.

Human capital cost. Also, infrastructure is expensive by nature. We managed to run four at once with a team of 12 people. As I said before, vendor X ~= vendor Y in some way, so your deal and the service you get are not the same, so there is cost associated with that also. There is a reason to pick a good strong vendor and stick with it. Big names end up building their own data center (they can probably capx it for ta…

12 people whose sole, full-time job is to install the same OS on multiple vendors and make the networks look the same?

I'm having trouble imagining what problems have to be constantly dealt with such that multiple millions of dollars have to go into abstracting the multiple vendors.

Re: Linode is suffering on-going DDoS attacks

#44
post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How does one set up to use multiple vendors?

You might consider taking a look at http://www.cloud66.com/

http://www.distelli.com is another great company/service for multi-platform+multi-provider support. Dead simple to use. Discovered them a few weeks ago and it's totally upgraded my deployment and orchestration strategies.

Re: Linode is suffering on-going DDoS attacks

#46
post #34

Just 2 days ago, a Linode employee was badmouthing AWS here on HN for being too expensive: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10796094 A DDoS will be much more expensive to customers than choosing AWS over Linode (or an equivalent low-priced service). EC2 has been around since 2006, and never has had any issues resembling this.

So you're comparing DDoS of a provider with everyday spending?

I was contracted a few months ago to save a website crumbling under its bills. They had $11k / month in AWS bills. Brought it down to $600 / month by switching them to Linode with a more reasonable stack.

Not everything is a nail. Sometimes the mistake is choosing AWS.

Re: Linode is suffering on-going DDoS attacks

#47
It's funny that it took an event like this for me to realize this but now I see that it's really a bunch of companies (like Linode) all leasing out space in some huge data-center. I use ASO vps hosting and they too have been experiencing a large network outage. I'm sure you can find at least a handful of hosting companies that are SOL right now too. I guess I understand the whole premise of putting all your eggs into one basket, but then again you really shouldn't.

Re: Linode is suffering on-going DDoS attacks

#48

This may be a dumb question as I haven't read the bill, but isn't this what CISA is supposed to help guard against in the future? If Linode has an easier way of sharing info with the USG, can that help pinpoint and mitigate this attack from happening in the future? Edit: how about a response instead of downvotes?

Dealing with DDOS has always been way below anti-piracy on in the priority of the relevant US authorities. It's very easy to do and hard to identify those ultimately responsible. Although every now and again a big botnet command-and-control network gets shut down.

Nobody's interested in the defensive side of ""cyberwarfare"".

Re: Linode is suffering on-going DDoS attacks

#49

I would like to correlate the comments in this thread with past comments on every single article about AWS or GCE of the form "this is so expensive / complicated I run my boxes on Linode for half the price". DDoS protection is one of the things you pay for on the big clouds.

What about DigitalOcean? Its pricing is comparable to Linode's, yet DigitalOcean is now the second largest web host in the world according to Netcraft. Do you still think that AWS, Google Cloud Platform, and Microsoft Azure offer better protection?

Re: Linode is suffering on-going DDoS attacks

#50

I would like to correlate the comments in this thread with past comments on every single article about AWS or GCE of the form "this is so expensive / complicated I run my boxes on Linode for half the price". DDoS protection is one of the things you pay for on the big clouds.

That is true.

However, how many of the people impacted by the current DDoS against Linode are only affected BECAUSE they are using Linode?

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