Anyone else remember ISAPI?
I still use it. Every day.
It really isn't as terrible as you'd think.
C++: A language for next generation web apps
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Re: C++: A language for next generation web apps
#22The reason why dynamic scripting languages are more appropriate for web applications than C++ is simply that the bottleneck is somewhere else - namely, the Internet is slow enough to make the performance of the server-side code irrelevant. That can very easily change in the future.
Re: C++: A language for next generation web apps
#23Was anyone else let down that this was a sarcastic thing and not real?
Re: C++: A language for next generation web apps
#24To be fair, after coming back to C++ after years in the world of Python and Haskell, it's not as bad as I remembered. C++ is actually a moderately effective functional programming language. With reasonable knowledge of the standard data structures, and using BOOST, one can actually write fairly expressive and effective C++ code. Most of the time, I feel like all I'm doing is writing a much more verbose version of Pyt…
The question isn't "Can C++ work?" or "Will C++ be faster?" because we all know it can work and that it will be faster. The question is "At what point does the extra development time become more expensive than just adding another server to my Ruby/Python/C#/Whatever App"
For me, someone who learned C++ in school but has been in managed enviornments ever since, I'd be too scared to use C++. I'm not ashamed to admit I get a lot of help from the Internet when I'm stuck on a problem and that help is available because everyone else is using the same tools I am. Using C++ to code web apps puts you out in the wilderness as far as I'm concerned and I just don't think I could do it.
Re: C++: A language for next generation web apps
#25if you're on an embedded device, this is actually not a satire
on that note does anyone know of an ansi Forth (or fairly portable at least) server that's reasonably robust.
http://colorforth.com/haypress.htm
I'm not sure if this falls under the robust category or.. sever :) but it supports forth and has total of 360 computers running at 700 Mips or 250 Gips
Re: C++: A language for next generation web apps
#26To be fair, after coming back to C++ after years in the world of Python and Haskell, it's not as bad as I remembered. C++ is actually a moderately effective functional programming language. With reasonable knowledge of the standard data structures, and using BOOST, one can actually write fairly expressive and effective C++ code. Most of the time, I feel like all I'm doing is writing a much more verbose version of Pyt…
Oddly enough I'm back to C++ too, after Ruby. One nice thing is; in a fast language, tests run quickly too. Also, Python and Ruby don't have the equivalent of an ASSERT (you could roll your own but it's not standard practice ). Also, C++ has standard hash lists and complicated data structure are actually going to run quickly. And while memory management can be a pain, you are doing it yourself so you can track down m…
Also, Python and Ruby don't have the equivalent of an ASSERT (you could roll your own but it's not standard practice).
Ahem:
http://docs.python.org/reference/simple_stmts.html#the-asser...
Re: C++: A language for next generation web apps
#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
Oddly enough I'm back to C++ too, after Ruby. One nice thing is; in a fast language, tests run quickly too. Also, Python and Ruby don't have the equivalent of an ASSERT (you could roll your own but it's not standard practice ). Also, C++ has standard hash lists and complicated data structure are actually going to run quickly. And while memory management can be a pain, you are doing it yourself so you can track down m…
C++ doesn't actually have a standard "hash list" (I assume you meant hash map or hash set?). Depending on your implementation, you either have hash_{map,set}, unordered_{map,set}, both, or something entirely different. tr1 specified unordered_{map,set}, but tr1 is only technically a proposal, not a standard. I think a safe assumption is that tr1::unordered_{map,set} will be available in all implementations by now, bu…
Nah, the committee isn't going to change unordered_set or unordered_map; they're struggling with far more urgent things, to finish the std off. Those have already gotten the full treatment, they have the usual std:: collection interface; what's to change?
Re: C++: A language for next generation web apps
#28Was anyone else let down that this was a sarcastic thing and not real?
Check out OKWS (http://www.okws.org/doku.php?id=okws) if you're interested in developing webapps on C++.
Re: C++: A language for next generation web apps
#29To be fair, after coming back to C++ after years in the world of Python and Haskell, it's not as bad as I remembered. C++ is actually a moderately effective functional programming language. With reasonable knowledge of the standard data structures, and using BOOST, one can actually write fairly expressive and effective C++ code. Most of the time, I feel like all I'm doing is writing a much more verbose version of Pyt…
Oddly enough I'm back to C++ too, after Ruby. One nice thing is; in a fast language, tests run quickly too. Also, Python and Ruby don't have the equivalent of an ASSERT (you could roll your own but it's not standard practice ). Also, C++ has standard hash lists and complicated data structure are actually going to run quickly. And while memory management can be a pain, you are doing it yourself so you can track down m…
RubyOnRails is very test gunghu, but to run a hello world test takes seconds, anyone know why? This seems very odd. Is this one of those do what I preach, not what I do things?
Re: C++: A language for next generation web apps
#30Was anyone else let down that this was a sarcastic thing and not real?
Why believe it's satire? He's got an actual app already deployed and a full history of blog posts demonstrating his knowledge and interest in this field.