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> I don’t know if something like a Kickstarter campaign to raise some money to pay for engineer time would help sway Mozilla at all, but I’m perfectly happy pledging a few hundred dollars and running the campaign, if necessary. I just really want to see Persona succeed. I mentioned this by email, but I'll repeat it here: I believe in the design behind Persona. I believe a well structured, free authentication provider…
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> And, I didn't even know it was an option until it stopped being an option. Not to take away from your overall point, but you can still very much use persona: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Persona (linked from https://login.persona.org/ )
Cool. I'll give it a shot. There is a Drupal module for it (I run Drupal on my current primary site, for now), though it only has 38 active installs, which is somewhat worrying.
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> And, I didn't even know it was an option until it stopped being an option. Not to take away from your overall point, but you can still very much use persona: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Persona (linked from https://login.persona.org/ )
> Defintely something to note for future UX designs... but Persona, the service hosted by mozilla, is being decommissioned in late 2016. https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/mozilla.dev.identity...
I'm part of the team that runs the production service of Persona, and I can confirm it is operated, monitored and managed like any other critical production service today.
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Side note: usernames should just be emails these days, they're unique and save all the effort of needing another made up name.
Theoretically yes, but it's not as simple as that. Every identity can have more than one email associated with it, and emails can change over time. So "username == email" is fine as long as the concept of a username mutating is fine.
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Theoretically yes, but it's not as simple as that. Every identity can have more than one email associated with it, and emails can change over time. So "username == email" is fine as long as the concept of a username mutating is fine.
I don't see a problem, it just means you can login with multiple emails then. They're still unique to you. LinkedIn and Facebook and other services already do this. A username/real name can still be used as the "name" if this is an online community or something similar.
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> They're still unique to you. Nope. Most free email providers out there (including gmail) have policies for username expiration, some even quite aggressively (like one month without login). "Me" on one of these services might not be "me" in three months' time, but you-website won't know that and will happily send a password reset link to my old email.
Also, people share email addresses. Really, they do.
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> Defintely something to note for future UX designs... but Persona, the service hosted by mozilla, is being decommissioned in late 2016. https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/mozilla.dev.identity...
> In the event that Persona is decommissioned, we will provide at least 9 months of notice, so there are no actions that need to be taken right now. Persona continues to be monitored and supported, though there is still no new feature development. I'm part of the team that runs the production service of Persona, and I can confirm it is operated, monitored and managed like any other critical production service today.
Disclaimer: I work for Mozilla, I maintain django-browserid (and StravosK is a valued contributor many sites. This is all just my own personal opinion. I was very bullish on Persona early on, but the fact of the matter is, we failed . And not just because (as I feel is being implied) some higher up suddenly came over and asked for an unreasonable amount of adoption for a revolutionary product. We failed for a thousan…
Disclaimer: I work for Mozilla, I maintain django-browserid (and StravosK is a valued contributor many sites. This is all just my own personal opinion. I was very bullish on Persona early on, but the fact of the matter is, we failed . And not just because (as I feel is being implied) some higher up suddenly came over and asked for an unreasonable amount of adoption for a revolutionary product. We failed for a thousan…
The main problem with Persona was not the tech, Persona is great and works well. The problem is that building federated identity services is hard. Persona is not a centralized login system such as "login with Facebook". With Persona, once you decide to login with your email account, first Persona looks for an IdP with your domain/provider, the if not found it goes back to the persona catchall service. For a while gma…
> What killed Persona was not tech but the lack of traction. Developers loved it but failed to use it. The idea was always that Mozilla would ship native integration in Firefox. There were very very pretty mockups going around and everyone was holding their breath for that to happen.[1] Even announcing they would ship it in the next version would mean 1) it’s stable now and 2) Mozilla is behind it. My guess is Google…