It looks like a flattened version of a kinesis keyboard, but with a slightly odd dvorak style layout
Thought the same thing. You can get a Kinesis keyboard in dvorak also btw.
and kinesis keyboards are probably way more comfortable
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#12Layout's rather interesting, the page is light on detail though. Needs a trackpoint ( http://shop.lenovo.com/SEUILibrary/controller/e/web/LenovoPo... ).
I have yet to find an acceptable way for cursor movement that doesn't involve analog input. The linked keyboard layout moved the inverted-T arrows and the extra six (insert, del etc) block to a position between the hands.
I can only imagine that it was to avoid having to move the hands off the home row. The keyboard's lack of a trackpoint means it's not the keyboard for me. Which is unfortunate, as the AVR USB uc series (they might be using one but the linked page is unclear) has a usb hid mouse profile available (http://www.fourwalledcubicle.com/LUFA.php)
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#13Good that the control key is in the correct place but think I'd rather just have one of these: http://www.sun.com/desktop/products/peripherals/keyboard/
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#14Insane. The home rows are a key too wide. A qwerty touch typist never needs to move a finger more than one key left or right from its resting position (try this -- it hurts!). This layout forces you to do so regularly to hit either control/shift modifiers or the cursor controls and/or backspace in the middle (gack: imagine having to move your wrist just to backspace over the "S" you just typed!). Traditional layout m…
I might be missing something, but I don't understand your complaints:
- You can still hit shift with your pinkies in essentially the same position as traditional Qwerty.
- There's a control key in the "correct" position, next to the A, which is less of a stretch than PC keyboards with control in the bottom corners.
- Yes, you need to move your hand to reach the cursor keys, but how is this worse than Qwerty (where you need to move it even farther)?
- Backspace is a thumb key on this keyboard and requires no finger movement, while on Qwerty it's one of the least-accessible keys.
- PC Qwerty keyboards do require you to move your fingers more than one key left or right. Depending on your exact keyboard model, how else do you type backspace, Enter/Return, Escape, right-bracket/right-brace, pipe/backslash, or equals/plus? (These are totally common keys for programmers, and backspace/enter/return are common for everybody.)
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#16What a horrible keyboard!
I've only recently been looking for a new keyboard for home because on my current (Microsoft Media Desktop 1000) all the function keys are tiny and packed together with no grouping (F1-F4 F5-F8 F9-F12). Coding is so much slower on it because I can't touch type/find the bloody keys.
And don't get me started on manufacturers who move the insert/delete/home/end/pgup/pgdn keys...
I ended up getting a Lenovo 73P4067 because it's one of the only manufacturers I could find who has a standard keyboard combined with wireless.
Maybe I'm just getting old, and set in my ways, but give me a standard keyboard any day.
/end rant
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#17What a horrible keyboard! I've only recently been looking for a new keyboard for home because on my current (Microsoft Media Desktop 1000) all the function keys are tiny and packed together with no grouping (F1-F4 F5-F8 F9-F12). Coding is so much slower on it because I can't touch type/find the bloody keys. And don't get me started on manufacturers who move the insert/delete/home/end/pgup/pgdn keys... I ended up gett…
Agreed!!! I was recently heartbroken when, upon receiving my new computer at work, I found that my tried-and-true PS/2 that I had been using for years no longer had a port to connect to. Switching to the new keyboard was not fun.