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New Global Growth Projections Predict the Decade of India

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Why is the life of a Zimbabwean citizen more important than the life of a Zimbabwean lion?

Because one of them is sentient.

I suppose this is what separates environmentalists from non-environmentalists.

You have a fixed belief that any and every human life is more important than all animals or plants.

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Why is the life of a Zimbabwean citizen more important than the life of a Zimbabwean lion?

Because one of them is sentient.

You suggest making better the life of the sentient being even if it kills a non-sentient being? What about a mentally handicapped person who is not sentient?

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According to the chart, it will also be the decade of Africa -- which is sort of a nice change. :)

It is sort of horrible, once you think about it. Africa is the last continent on earth to have abundant wildlife. Development in Africa would mean we lose a large portion of wildlife on earth, forever.

This is not even correct. Endangered species are much safer in the US than Africa, because nobody is eating them for survival or poaching them to sell to the Chinese. Strong institutions and better-than-sustenance jobs are how to protect wildlife.

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Why is the life of a Zimbabwean citizen more important than the life of a Zimbabwean lion?

Because one of them is sentient.

Both lions and humans (like most, or all, animals) are sentient.

You may be referring to some concept of intelligent self-awareness, but you need to be more clear as to what it is to evaluate whether its a real difference between humans and lions; lots of animals have demonstrable self-awareness of various forms.

I agree that the human condition is more important, but I don't think your explanation of why holds up.

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> But don't you think the wildlife are equally important? The implicit end of that sentence is "equally important to the hundreds of millions of Africans living there." And to that, emphatically no. People are more important. Full stop. I am no anti-environmental activist. I want to see renewable energy take over fossil fuels, I want to see conscientious business taking environmental factors into account at all steps…

Why is the life of a Zimbabwean citizen more important than the life of a Zimbabwean lion?

I don't think it is. But that said, I guess perhaps we as human beings are biased towards our species and/or empathize better with the human condition.

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> Moreover the recent development showed that Germany was making gains in demographics with higher birth rate and net migrations... Germany's demographics is actually changing very quickly (and rather favorably). First, higher birth rate and net migrations are usually a (short-term) drag on GDP, not a boost. Secondly, you can't look at Germany outside the context of being a member of the EU and Eurozone (and currentl…

you can't look at Germany outside the context of being a member of the EU and Eurozone (and currently a very important creditor in the Eurozone) This is exactly right. If a few of Germany's key debtors end up defaulting and exiting the Eurozone, a prospect not so far out of the realm of possibility given the leftward political trend in those countries, then Germany could fall on hard times very quickly.

German export oriented economy needs EU and South Europe cannot devalue their currency and pose threat to German export economy. If they move out of EU and devalue their currencies, Germany is in big big trouble. Disintegration of Europe is delayed but very likely narrative of the decade.

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"lifting hundreds of millions of people out of poverty" Objectively, humanity most closely resembles a cancer. The more you feed it, the more it grows. It tramples everything in its path. The belief that somehow exponential economic growth is going to fix everything and everyone will lead happy middle class lives in some kind of harmony with nature is delusional. We are in the midst of the largest mass extinction eve…

Then by all means, everyone who lives there can continue living in huts so that the trees aren't disturbed, right? This entire argument is insane.

What's wrong with people living in huts? People can be at harmony with nature, there's no need to force them into buildings. There certainly is no indication that living in a brick house makes someone happier than living in a hut.
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