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Skier almost hit by camera drone in World Cup slalom

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Re: Skier almost hit by camera drone in World Cup slalom

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Why would you assume a major TV broadcaster wouldn't use sufficiently capable pilots and not have insurance? I would be shocked if they were not very well insured.

They may have taken some lessons from Uber and figured that uninsured contractors are a good option :). I guess we'll find out as the investigation goes forward.

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I used to fly remote control aeroplanes as a hobby. There's a really strong culture of having a licence and insurance before you're allowed to fly solo. You have to pass a test before you can get insurance, and there are more tests if you want to fly around spectators (stunt shows, etc). This seems to be completely missing in the drone community. I quizzed some drone enthusiasts about it and they responded with "meh"…

Why would you assume a major TV broadcaster wouldn't use sufficiently capable pilots and not have insurance? I would be shocked if they were not very well insured.

Sorry, I wasn't really commenting on this exact situation in particular - more the general problem of enthusiast drones which is becoming quite a hot topic in my country (UK).

I'm sure they had insurance and I'm sure the pilot was competent!

Re: Skier almost hit by camera drone in World Cup slalom

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A mandatory security parachute could avoid this scenario. To ban drones is the simple way out.

Of all the things that can go wrong, falling out of the sky is one of the least of the problems. A bulky parachute is extra weight so people are going to avoid building it in, and besides that, I doubt it's going to help in most situations. E.g.: Who decides to deploy it? The pilot? In that case, signal loss or interference might get in the way. Or does the multirotor decide for itself when to deploy? In that case it…

Depends on the mass, the momentum a drone carries, and how high it flies. Replace "drone" with "stone" and think again about the damage potential.

Re: Skier almost hit by camera drone in World Cup slalom

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Wow, it was news for me that athletes wear airbags.

It's very new. "The airbag is in this debut season by no means standard. Because many drivers believe he would impede on the track. Others fear aerodynamic deficiencies and malfunctions. In addition, the Italian manufacturer Dainese many teams not supplied as outfitters. And so had the sixth race this winter in addition to Mayer only five further downhill in Val Gardena over the air bag striped, four Austrians and tw…

To clarify these are airbags designed to protect you in a downhill crash (which are usually very violent for big alpine riders) but avalanche airbags that help you rise to the top of the stream of snow have been pretty standard equipment for the past ~5 years.

Re: Skier almost hit by camera drone in World Cup slalom

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He's wearing a helmet. What could wrong? Sorry--too much Reddit.

He could start tumbling down the slope with all the momentum he had at the moment, break various bones and die. The guy was not standing still at the moment of the incident!

Re: Skier almost hit by camera drone in World Cup slalom

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It was an official TV-video-quadcopter from an Italian local TV company. The FIS was initially okay with it. The quadcopter operater has a pilot license and was suposed to fly only in a specific corridor with no visitors nor athletes underneath. Though, the quadcopter (intentionally?) left the corridore several times in the minutes before the crash (for better videos?). https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl…

Anecdotally, all the news in the U.S. I've heard around the athlete wearing the airbag was quite contradictory to the assertion that the airbag exacerbated the problem; the story was that it actually may have saved him from much greater injuries.

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Am sure when the first cars hit the road, similar news made it to the newspaper front pages then.

Yup. And the carnage created brought operator licensing, mandatory registration, mandatory & regulated insurance for personal liability in most states and a substantial traffic code + police to enforce said code.

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It must be technically possible to prevent a drone from flying below a certain altitude. Probably one of the many features that will be added to drones in the coming years.

Perhaps this is possible with a software update, but it doesn't fix the standards to which the drone was mechanically constructed. Other commercial flying objects are rigorously safety tested for their ability to remain in the air despite different mechanical failures. Without the same standards applied to drones, we are likely to continue to see near-misses or full accidents happen. (Note: I'm not weighing in for or…

> Other commercial flying objects are rigorously safety tested for their ability to remain in the air despite different mechanical failures.

The key phrase here is commercial. There are strict regulations on commercial aircraft, but there are no such requirements for home-built or kit built aircraft. (quick edit, there are regulations/requirements for all aircraft, but it's a much lower standard for home-builts than for commercial)

Many people think that there aren't many kit aircraft out there, but there's actually a huge number. Oshkosh is the largest airshow in the U.S. for experimental aircraft and there were over 10,000 experimental aircraft at the show last year. There's even more who didn't attend the show! For comparison, Delta Airlines operates about 800 aircraft.

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Wow, it was news for me that athletes wear airbags.

Dainese (and others) have made airbags for professional motorcycle racers for several years now too. It's quite interesting tech.

Not only that, but Alpinestars sells a street jacket with an airbag system - along with their race suit. Hit Air (a system worn over your suit) has been in use by track riders for a couple of years now.
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