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New Zealand court rules Kim Dotcom can be extradited to US

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Re: New Zealand court rules Kim Dotcom can be extradited to US

#81

This probably goes against popular HN opinion, but good. I'm glad. He's a scumbag who profited TWO HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS off content that he knew to be copyright infringing. He deserves prison time.

And Google has made billions from infringing content through YouTube. Are you going to say that Larry and Sergey should be arrested too?

Intent is a thing that exists in law. But then again, so is jurisdiction...

Re: New Zealand court rules Kim Dotcom can be extradited to US

#85

This reminds me of a fantastic picture of Kim Dotcom: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/04/kim-dotcom-is-tot... It is over-the-top and ridiculous--just like Kim Dotcom.

This is actually a still from this also-fantastic video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mf3bjKwwlMM TL;DW: A lap of the infamous Nurburgring Nordschleife in Kim Dotcom's fleet of three Mercedes Benz CLK DTMs. The drivers are Kim Dotcom, his CMO from Megaupload, and Formula 1 World Champion Kimi Raikkonen. From the video description: "The production involved 30 cameras, 100+ crew, 2 helicopters, 2 camera cars and one…

The thing I like about that video is how he re-creates scenes from the Konami game.

Re: New Zealand court rules Kim Dotcom can be extradited to US

#86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a kiwi. This entire case makes me sick. This should have been thrown out of court a long time ago. This is a political move and nothing else. It's NZ on its knees sucking off the United States. From day 1 it's been illegal. Hidden process, and laws changed to make the process more legal. I hate my country now.

Would you rather your country act as a safe haven to criminals in exchange for money?

oh fuck off. You're just trolling now.

That's not the issue here.

People commit crimes in every country. They should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. No one is arguing that.

The issue is that you're suggesting that everyone should obey american law, which has been shown to be corrupt and driven entirely by campaign donations; while the locals are arguing that, perhaps, their own government should say...

...use its own laws, to prosecute its own citizens, rather than the laws from another country.

Do you think women should be punished in America for not wearing a hijab in public? That the tenants of Sharia law should be upheld in your country, because they are the laws of another country?

No? Right then, like I said...

Re: New Zealand court rules Kim Dotcom can be extradited to US

#87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And Google has made billions from infringing content through YouTube. Are you going to say that Larry and Sergey should be arrested too?

There are significant differences. For starters, YouTube worked with the government to establish a framework for making copyright management even vaguely tractable online where it wasn't before. https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/2807622?hl=en Kim Dotcom, in contrast, basically tried to thumb his nose at several hundred years of intellectual property law shared among the former members of the British Empire. T…

> Kim Dotcom, in contrast, basically tried to thumb his nose at several hundred years of intellectual property law shared among the former members of the British Empire. That's not going to win you any friends among those who enforce those laws.

You would think not existing in the jurisdiction would be enough. Apparently not.

Re: New Zealand court rules Kim Dotcom can be extradited to US

#88
The people who break copyright laws are heros, not criminals. The whole reason the industry is moving forward is because of people like him, the pirate bay, and nabster.

If it weren't for rampant copyright infringement, the industry would still be stuck in the dark ages.

Re: New Zealand court rules Kim Dotcom can be extradited to US

#89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a kiwi. This entire case makes me sick. This should have been thrown out of court a long time ago. This is a political move and nothing else. It's NZ on its knees sucking off the United States. From day 1 it's been illegal. Hidden process, and laws changed to make the process more legal. I hate my country now.

Would you rather your country act as a safe haven to criminals in exchange for money?

The US is already a safe haven for ill-gotten funds from Africa and China, parked in California, Texas, and New York City real estate. I'm supposed to be upset about Kim Dot Com? Hardly.

Re: New Zealand court rules Kim Dotcom can be extradited to US

#90

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Ahh, so they're fraudulently charging him in order to justify it. Why haven't the US attorneys responsible for this been disbarred?

Because the charges aren't fraudulent. They're dependent upon the secondary copyright infringement charge, but racketeering and money laundering are quite serious.

Why should racketeering and money laundering be more serious than the underlying crimes?

Those charges seem serious because they're associated with organized crime, but that's not the case here.

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