Unrelated, but does `Bollocks` mean anything to people outside of NZ?
One of the top 50 albums of all time used it in the title, so yeah. (Mr. Dotcom offered it as a pirated download from his service, too.)
New Zealand court rules Kim Dotcom can be extradited to US
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Re: New Zealand court rules Kim Dotcom can be extradited to US
#62Lol, the evil empire strikes again. These corrupt people who control the government understand nothing but power and violence.
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#63This just feels like a waste of taxpayer money, is Kim Dotcom worth extraditing?
It's worth it for the real constituency of what passes for justice these days - the megacorps and 1%.
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#64Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm not sure I'm reading this right, but criminal copyright infringement has much worse penalties than that in the U.S.
If U.S. citizen who does not reside in New Zealand who is not a New Zealand citizen broke an New Zealand law while living in the U.S. operating a U.K. operation, I don't think he will be extradited to New Zealand. If I wanted to be subject to U.S.'s laws I'd go to the U.S. The content owners should be forced to file lawsuits in Hong Kong or New Zealand. Otherwise it'd be as if New Zealand and Hong Kong are mere U.S.…
Welcome to 'international treaties', the new kind of law that you can't change by simply voting in a different party.
Re: New Zealand court rules Kim Dotcom can be extradited to US
#65This probably goes against popular HN opinion, but good. I'm glad. He's a scumbag who profited TWO HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS off content that he knew to be copyright infringing. He deserves prison time.
And Google has made billions from infringing content through YouTube. Are you going to say that Larry and Sergey should be arrested too?
There are significant differences.
For starters, YouTube worked with the government to establish a framework for making copyright management even vaguely tractable online where it wasn't before. https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/2807622?hl=en
Kim Dotcom, in contrast, basically tried to thumb his nose at several hundred years of intellectual property law shared among the former members of the British Empire. That's not going to win you any friends among those who enforce those laws.
Re: New Zealand court rules Kim Dotcom can be extradited to US
#66The New Zealand government spent $5.8M NZD prosecuting a man for a law that holds a maximum fine of $150,000 in the country he's being prosecuted in. Bollocks.
I'm not sure I'm reading this right, but criminal copyright infringement has much worse penalties than that in the U.S.
Technically he's being extradited for copyright infringement, racketeering and money laundering. I doubt they could have extradited him for copyright alone. Whether he is actually guilty of the last two is debatable.
Re: New Zealand court rules Kim Dotcom can be extradited to US
#67Lol, the evil empire strikes again. These corrupt people who control the government understand nothing but power and violence.
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I do say such things in person, when did mods become the politeness police? And who am I insulting, corrupt government officials, those with the dubious morals required to work for the government?
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#68Unrelated, but does `Bollocks` mean anything to people outside of NZ?
Literally, it means testicles, but more colloclially it means bullshit in every English speaking country I know of. edit: Apparently not. Just messaged my American buddy, and he thought it might be a wig for cows... So, maybe not Americans.
Not Canada either but def Australia
Re: New Zealand court rules Kim Dotcom can be extradited to US
#69Earlier quoted context omitted.
As a kiwi. This entire case makes me sick. This should have been thrown out of court a long time ago. This is a political move and nothing else. It's NZ on its knees sucking off the United States. From day 1 it's been illegal. Hidden process, and laws changed to make the process more legal. I hate my country now.
Would you rather your country act as a safe haven to criminals in exchange for money?
He is a NZ PR. He can be tried and convicted in New Zealand under NZ law. What I don't like is American influence on NZ politics.
I have no doubt that he knew the system was being used for illegal file sharing. And no doubt he probably turned a blind eye to a lot of it because it generated money.
But he should have been tried and convicted in NZ without the influence of America.
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#70Unrelated, but does `Bollocks` mean anything to people outside of NZ?
I don't mean to flame but even the slightest cursory look at world culture would have given you the answer to this question.