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Data Privacy Protection: Why Tutanota Is in Germany

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Re: Data Privacy Protection: Why Tutanota Is in Germany

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Aaah, Germany - the leader of privacy across the globe, the country where you're legally required to give up all your personal information in order to call someone from a prepaid phone card you just bought for 5 euro. And where you're not allowed to open up your wifi hotspot because someone might download an mp3 with it.

Re: Data Privacy Protection: Why Tutanota Is in Germany

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Aaah, Germany - the leader of privacy across the globe, the country where you're legally required to give up all your personal information in order to call someone from a prepaid phone card you just bought for 5 euro. And where you're not allowed to open up your wifi hotspot because someone might download an mp3 with it.

> give up all your personal information in order to call someone from a prepaid phone card you just bought for 5 euro.

That is flat out untrue. I actually was surprised how easy it was to get prepaid SIM cards (just buy them at any shop/gas station, no info/ID required), load and use them however and whenever I want (also 15 Euros for 5GB 3G and works in USB data sticks, pretty nice).

Illegal to have open Wifi, that is true :-) (I think it's a 125 Euro fine)

Re: Data Privacy Protection: Why Tutanota Is in Germany

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post #6

Aaah, Germany - the leader of privacy across the globe, the country where you're legally required to give up all your personal information in order to call someone from a prepaid phone card you just bought for 5 euro. And where you're not allowed to open up your wifi hotspot because someone might download an mp3 with it.

> give up all your personal information in order to call someone from a prepaid phone card you just bought for 5 euro. That is flat out untrue. I actually was surprised how easy it was to get prepaid SIM cards (just buy them at any shop/gas station, no info/ID required), load and use them however and whenever I want (also 15 Euros for 5GB 3G and works in USB data sticks, pretty nice). Illegal to have open Wifi, that…

But...isn't that also helping with privacy? I think the difference is personal liberty versus privacy...

Re: Data Privacy Protection: Why Tutanota Is in Germany

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post #6

Aaah, Germany - the leader of privacy across the globe, the country where you're legally required to give up all your personal information in order to call someone from a prepaid phone card you just bought for 5 euro. And where you're not allowed to open up your wifi hotspot because someone might download an mp3 with it.

> give up all your personal information in order to call someone from a prepaid phone card you just bought for 5 euro. That is flat out untrue. I actually was surprised how easy it was to get prepaid SIM cards (just buy them at any shop/gas station, no info/ID required), load and use them however and whenever I want (also 15 Euros for 5GB 3G and works in USB data sticks, pretty nice). Illegal to have open Wifi, that…

Yea, this works. However, with some providers like Congstar you actually need to give all your details using online form before SIM gets activated.

Re: Data Privacy Protection: Why Tutanota Is in Germany

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"In Germany there is no law that could force us to submit to a gag order or to implement a backdoor."

meanwhile

"Cock.li e-mail server seized by German authorities, admin announces"

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/12/cock-li-e-mail-se...

-edit- to: all

yes I realize seizure is not a gag order nor a backdoor. but the whole article spends thousand word praising how privacy is so much more safe in Germany and how all the other states surveillance operations are so bad , which was kinda ironic.

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