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The Relationship Between Intelligence and Anxiety

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Re: The Relationship Between Intelligence and Anxiety

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In summary: Positive correlation: (Anxiety, Low Choline), Intelligence Positive correlation: (No Anxiety, Normal Choline), Intelligence

Does this mean that if I'm an intelligent worrier and take a choline supplement then I can possibly get some relief?

I really wouldn't read too much into MR spectroscopy studies.

MRS is an extremely blunt instrument and only serves to line peoples CVs with scientific sounding publications.

Re: The Relationship Between Intelligence and Anxiety

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I can honestly say anxiety ruined my life. Yea, I had some fun here, and there, but anxiety really held me back. I all stemmed from one huge panic attack on Christmas Eve. I remember coming home from my father's house. Normal Irish blue collar Christmas. We were all drinking. Not drunk--Irish don't get drunk--we can handle the booze--with the exception of our livers. We we just having a good time. I did have a cup of…

I struggled with anxiety for several years (only realising in retrospect that it was anxiety that was the principle source of my ills.) I benefitted from an excellent, no BS therapist as well as finding the right medication. It took me several tries to find a medication that made a noticeable difference (the first three never helped and actually in some ways made the situation worse. It also took several tries to fin…

Also, some other pointers: - Meds take a long time to work. Don't give up on a drug until you've tried it for at least several weeks. - Same for therapy, don't leave a therapist because you have one bad session or they say something that irks you.

Some other things that helped me: - Minimise negative influences in your life (this includes family members). End toxic relationships. Only be with people that lift you up. - Find fulfilling work. Even if it means taking a pay cut. Doing work you don't enjoy with people you don't like will slowly eat away at your soul. - Stop drinking coffee and minimise caffeine intake. - Get plenty of sleep. Sleep deprivation only makes things worse. - Minimise alcohol intake and avoid recreational drug intake. - Avoid Benzodiazepines - like alcohol they may help in the short term but will hit you hard on the rebound in the long term.

Re: The Relationship Between Intelligence and Anxiety

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We have demonstrated in a previous study that a high degree of worry in patients with generalized anxiety disorder (GAD) correlates positively with intelligence and that a low degree of worry in healthy subjects correlates positively with intelligence. Much simpler alternate hypothesis: Generalized Anxiety Disorder is more accurately diagnosed in intelligent people. (As for the study, the small sample size etc makes…

If you accept that hypothesis then you'd also necessarily have to accept the hypothesis that intelligent people are more likely to have been diagnosed with all sorts of mental disorders because the disorders are more accurately diagnosed in them.

But, the hypothesis that that GAD is more accurately diagnosed as intelligence increases doesn't require the expansion that all (or even a single other) mental disorder be more accurately diagnosed.

Perhaps it'd be better to say "you'd be opening yourself to the hypothesis", which would be more likely to be true. I still don't think the OP's alternative hypothesis is broad enough to support this claim, but it'd be less false on its face.

Re: The Relationship Between Intelligence and Anxiety

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

As somebody whom gets anxiety, my assumption was always that more intelligent people aren't ignorant to the likes of science and such and therefore realize the gravity of possibly scenarios. Few examples....I got a decent gash on my leg a few months ago. I was going out kayaking with some friends so I shaved my leg around the cut and wrapped it up nice and good with a duct tape bandage and water proof tape over that.…

"Fuck it dawg, life's a risk."

Assuming you like their music too :)

Re: The Relationship Between Intelligence and Anxiety

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post #12

We have demonstrated in a previous study that a high degree of worry in patients with generalized anxiety disorder (GAD) correlates positively with intelligence and that a low degree of worry in healthy subjects correlates positively with intelligence. Much simpler alternate hypothesis: Generalized Anxiety Disorder is more accurately diagnosed in intelligent people. (As for the study, the small sample size etc makes…

As somebody whom gets anxiety, my assumption was always that more intelligent people aren't ignorant to the likes of science and such and therefore realize the gravity of possibly scenarios. Few examples....I got a decent gash on my leg a few months ago. I was going out kayaking with some friends so I shaved my leg around the cut and wrapped it up nice and good with a duct tape bandage and water proof tape over that.…

I have a different outlook as someone whose life was crippled by anxiety.

Many times my opinion on varying matters is asked I am met with some derogatory comments about how I only see the grim aspects of a given situation.

When in truth, from my point of view at least, I simply seem to see a large tree of possibilities of things that can go wrong or right. For instance, regarding the positive and negative sides of buying a house, if I point out the price, the distance to school/work and the condition of the roof it seems like people blame me for pointing it out... like I was personally and willingly trying to destroy the happiness the best case scenario would bring if they bought it on the spot. And it rarely fails: my objections are only met with more positive aspects in the form of "but this is okay because...". It's like most people don't want to see the whole picture, only the positive elements of the whole picture.

Now I try to grow up and dodge those situations or let requests for advices pass by.

But it's not about « intelligence », it's more about seeing the whole picture, getting asked about it and being blamed for detailing the obvious (I know next to nothing of carpentry or the real estate market beyond the obvious: "don't buy a house on fire").

Re: The Relationship Between Intelligence and Anxiety

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

From the first sentence of the conclusion: > It should be noted, however, that... the mean IQ for the GAD group was elevated in comparison to the control group (a mean of ∼119 versus a mean of ∼109). Further, the IQ means for both the GAD group and the control group were significantly higher than the average IQ of the general population (∼100). Results should thus be interpreted with the consideration that the study…

I've always wondered about this when talking to friends of mine who are psychology grad students about the studies they work on. Since most of them rely upon volunteers attracted via mechanisms like flyers put up on a university campus or the raffle of a free iPad in a college town, aren't these types of volunteer-based studies going to tell you a lot about college kids and (potentially) very little about the general…

I came to confirm that as well :).

Students lingering in the hall is the template of psych. models.

Re: The Relationship Between Intelligence and Anxiety

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

As somebody whom gets anxiety, my assumption was always that more intelligent people aren't ignorant to the likes of science and such and therefore realize the gravity of possibly scenarios. Few examples....I got a decent gash on my leg a few months ago. I was going out kayaking with some friends so I shaved my leg around the cut and wrapped it up nice and good with a duct tape bandage and water proof tape over that.…

I have a different outlook as someone whose life was crippled by anxiety. Many times my opinion on varying matters is asked I am met with some derogatory comments about how I only see the grim aspects of a given situation. When in truth, from my point of view at least, I simply seem to see a large tree of possibilities of things that can go wrong or right. For instance, regarding the positive and negative sides of bu…

Lol I've been there, and being pinned as the Debbie downer or being called paranoid because of it

Re: The Relationship Between Intelligence and Anxiety

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I can honestly say anxiety ruined my life. Yea, I had some fun here, and there, but anxiety really held me back. I all stemmed from one huge panic attack on Christmas Eve. I remember coming home from my father's house. Normal Irish blue collar Christmas. We were all drinking. Not drunk--Irish don't get drunk--we can handle the booze--with the exception of our livers. We we just having a good time. I did have a cup of…

You could give this a try: [1]

But make sure you discuss with your GP.

[1] http://forums.phoenixrising.me/index.php?threads/completely-...

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