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Cock.li e-mail server seized by German authorities, admin announces

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Re: Cock.li e-mail server seized by German authorities, admin announces

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Post by s73v3r »

aaronem wrote: post #8
runn1ng wrote: post #2

cock.li. The proud owner of nigge.rs, horsefucker.org and goat.si. RIP in peace

Seeing as he's yet to be accused of anything except being a community-minded sysadmin with a low sense of humor, I'm not sure a mere lack of taste excuses the extremely unsympathetic media attention that's been focused on the operator of this service in the last few days.

Nobody is accusing him of anything other than hosting some poor joke domains. However, his domain was the one that the emails threatening several school districts came from. And while I'm sure they don't think he's the culprit, his server would still have some evidence on it.

Re: Cock.li e-mail server seized by German authorities, admin announces

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Post by s73v3r »

vox_mollis wrote: post #4

How, exactly, did German authorities come to decide that California has jurisdiction in Germany? Was this pursuant to MLAT?

Are you saying that one should be allowed to threaten to kill people in one country from another, and not be held accountable?

Re: Cock.li e-mail server seized by German authorities, admin announces

#13

Post by aaronem »

s73v3r wrote: post #11
aaronem wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seeing as he's yet to be accused of anything except being a community-minded sysadmin with a low sense of humor, I'm not sure a mere lack of taste excuses the extremely unsympathetic media attention that's been focused on the operator of this service in the last few days.

Nobody is accusing him of anything other than hosting some poor joke domains. However, his domain was the one that the emails threatening several school districts came from. And while I'm sure they don't think he's the culprit, his server would still have some evidence on it.

Have you seen CBS's [1] and the Daily Mail's [2] hit pieces on him? Of the latter such flagrant nonsense is to be expected, but one generally doesn't expect to see CBS descend to the same level.

[1] http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2015/12/18/cbs-news-maine-nat... [2] http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3367044/Maine-colleg...

Re: Cock.li e-mail server seized by German authorities, admin announces

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Post by detaro »

Interesting that they only took one of the disks. a) a more aggressive forensic approach would avoid the server to be shut down if at all possible (getting data in RAM or on encrypted partitions) and b) it is very restrained in comparison to other seizures.

I'd say that if they believed he were actively complicit or would do something to hinder the investigation, they would have been more aggressive, possibly went after machines in his home as well. Of course, if I'm right with this assumption, why didn't they contact him, but went directly for the server via the hoster. (I'm actually not sure how the law works with regards to seizing data vs seizing the (probably provider-owned) media it is on)

Also, I guess the "just take one of the RAIDed disks" in this way is only possible if you run a server provided by a known hosting provider, were it isn't the first seizure for both police and provider. The provider knows how the servers are set up, law enforcement trusts that the provider just wants to get everything done as quickly as possible.

Re: Cock.li e-mail server seized by German authorities, admin announces

#15

Post by detaro »

s73v3r wrote: post #12
vox_mollis wrote: post #4

How, exactly, did German authorities come to decide that California has jurisdiction in Germany? Was this pursuant to MLAT?

Are you saying that one should be allowed to threaten to kill people in one country from another, and not be held accountable?

Are you saying that asking how something works is the same as saying the same thing happening is horribly wrong?

Re: Cock.li e-mail server seized by German authorities, admin announces

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Post by Bud »

leppr wrote: post #7
runn1ng wrote: post #2

cock.li. The proud owner of nigge.rs, horsefucker.org and goat.si. RIP in peace

The "anonymous mail service with offensive names" could be made a standard indicator of a country's freedom of speech status. Actually, that'd be a good research project: setup and host such a service in as many countries as possible, wait as they get shutdown (+6 points)/subpoenaed (+3)/ddosed (+1) and make a map.

Not responsive or relevant to this situation, in two very important ways: first, this isn't just any email service, a threat which cost millions of dollars was made from this service. Second, and more crucially, the service was NOT shut down.

Re: Cock.li e-mail server seized by German authorities, admin announces

#20

Post by Bud »

s73v3r wrote: post #11
aaronem wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seeing as he's yet to be accused of anything except being a community-minded sysadmin with a low sense of humor, I'm not sure a mere lack of taste excuses the extremely unsympathetic media attention that's been focused on the operator of this service in the last few days.

Nobody is accusing him of anything other than hosting some poor joke domains. However, his domain was the one that the emails threatening several school districts came from. And while I'm sure they don't think he's the culprit, his server would still have some evidence on it.

Point of order: gratuitous use of the word "nigger" is not a joke. Jokes are funny, or at least attempt to be funny. This doesn't qualify. This is something other than a joke.
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