I'm definitely going to start renting my own server somewhere in Europe starting from January. I absolutely agree with everything he said and I really want to claim my own data again (run my own email server and things).
Fuck the Cloud (2009)
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Re: Fuck the Cloud (2009)
#12When everything was "moving to the cloud" a few years ago (around when Jason wrote this), I started to have similar feelings. It all felt like something marketers were over-hyping. "Your computer in the cloud" (ever had a shell account that was your main system? This isn't new), "your games in the cloud! Ever played Nethack using that shell account?
I guess the only 'new' thing that I saw was the scaling capabilities based on capacity, but we've had time-sharing (albeit, slightly different) for many years.
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#13While Jason Scott raises interesting points six years ago, the principles of data management remain the same as the days of dedicated servers with on premises systems. If you have only one copy of data and that machine goes down, then the data goes with it. In my experience in a business context 'the cloud' discussion is about the business' desire to expand capacity without the need for the capital expenditure needed…
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#14Oh, right, this is the guy that wrote the "facebook is the worst thing ever" screed.
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#15This seems unnecessarily angry. I suppose that this person wants to keep his data forever, but many people just don't care that much about their social media photos and the like. I'd love it if Facebook and Twitter had a rolling deletion period option - everything more than six months old is shredded forever, as far as the service is concerned. While people can obviously store shared photos and this wouldn't actually…
Or alternatively roll them into inaccessible private space after X amount of time determined by user.
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#16Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I suppose that this person wants to keep his data forever, but many people just don't care that much about their social media photos and the like. "This person" is Jason Scott, who works as the Internet Archive and also heads up Archive Team (the loose band of internet folks who race to archive sites about to go dark). He's a digital historian; his job is to save everything he can. https://twitter.com/textfiles htt…
This seems to be more of a philosophical stance than an argument based on outcomes. It's also a call to think before knee-jerking "the cloud". And I do see the philosophical argument it has merit. But it does lack a business argument [for service consuming businesses] which will win out in most cases. In other words, in real world usage, the cloud is more dependable and flexible than internal IT infrastructure provid…
> This seems to be more of a philosophical stance than an argument based on outcomes.
I agree, but its fundamentally simple: Always be in control of your own data, because no one else is going to be looking out for it.
Re: Fuck the Cloud (2009)
#17This article is a lot of fun with the Cloud To Butt Chrome plugin installed.
>So please, take my advice, as I go into other concentrated endeavors. Fuck the Butt. Fuck it right in the ear.
Re: Fuck the Cloud (2009)
#18This seems unnecessarily angry. I suppose that this person wants to keep his data forever, but many people just don't care that much about their social media photos and the like. I'd love it if Facebook and Twitter had a rolling deletion period option - everything more than six months old is shredded forever, as far as the service is concerned. While people can obviously store shared photos and this wouldn't actually…
An approach of "delete all personal data over X days old" would actually solve a lot of those companies' data protection issues. It would also make them less likely to be hacked, since they would be less tempting targets. Why try to hack some celebrity's chat app if you know all nudie pics are deleted after X days?
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#20Don't we keep our entire life's savings in companies aka banks that we don’t run, don’t control, don’t buy, don’t administrate, and don’t really understand.