Obama Signs CISA Bill into Law

Post by fixermark » Sun, Dec 20, 2015, 12:52 AM UTC

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How this happened [1]: In a late-night session of Congress, House Speaker Paul Ryan announced a new version of the “omnibus” bill, a massive piece of legislation that deals with much of the federal government’s funding. It now includes a version of CISA as well. Lumping CISA in with the omnibus bill further reduces any chance for debate over its surveillance-friendly provisions, or a White House veto. And the latest…

If the USA Freedom Act was 1 step forward for privacy (also debatable if even that), this is 5 steps back. The US really needs to break away from its 2-party system, and the only way to do that is to kill the FPTP voting system. Otherwise, Americans will never have real choices for stuff that really matters.

Post by JshWright » Sun, Dec 20, 2015, 1:10 AM UTC

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One of the few concrete functions of the Vice President once elected, is to serve as a more extreme alternative to the political positions of the President. That way, nobody opposed to the President's platform can assassinate the President in the hopes of killing that platform, because it will only be replaced with a worse version. This is not the case in an across-the-aisle Presidency. There are lots of Paul support…

The broader problem is that the Vice President has no real power. You can't balance a Presidency with an across-the-aisle candidate because the Vice President can't meaningfully do anything without the President's assent. The interesting thing is if the Democrats nominate Sanders and the Republicans nominate Paul.

Post by afarrell » Sun, Dec 20, 2015, 1:17 AM UTC

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> the free market is what brought us Dialup, DSL, Cable, FiOS, WiFi and whatever's after WiFi Government research and subsidies brought us these. The market only sold them.

> Government research and subsidies brought us these. The market only sold them. You do realize that the government pays (with private company tax dollars) other private companies to do things for them, don't you?

Post by jklinger410 » Sun, Dec 20, 2015, 2:31 AM UTC

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>Yeah, this whole thing about electing the right president who will somehow magically change all the wrongs of the world overnight is a fairy tale. I'm not sure who you guys think you're arguing against. I understand why you feel like you're correct in naysaying and feeling like you're adding something to the conversation by being contrary. Unfortunately you're setting up a bit of a strawman, as if people who support…

> I'm not sure who you guys think you're arguing against. Sometimes I forget that hackernews has a slightly more intelligent user-base. Unfortunately, I participate on reddit as well, and there, political supporters have a slightly naive view of how politics and the government works (that's putting it nicely). Sometimes I confuse the two websites. > So even in regards to your opinion your only real candidate is Berni…

Post by bennettfeely » Sun, Dec 20, 2015, 3:22 AM UTC

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Not Voting - Sen. Marco Rubio [R] Not Voting - Sen. Barbara Boxer [D] Cowards.

Rubio is too busy campaigning to actually do his job.