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Re: ReactOS, a 17-year quest for an open-source Windows, has a new release candidate

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A serious question: When will we see a truly new OS built from the ground up? If there is a space where there seems to be little innovation it is in the space of new OS paradigms. Flavors of Windows or Linux - are there really any commercially ready alternatives today or in the very near future?

Re: ReactOS, a 17-year quest for an open-source Windows, has a new release candidate

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Many people migrated to GNU/Linux or Mac because Microsoft had abused their monopoly, some people and companies are stuck with Microsoft because their business needs Windows to run their custom apps. Citation needed. I migrated to Mac OS X in 2000[1] because it was a Unix-like operating system with a usable UI that worked well on a laptop[2]. Also, there were to be two companies, not five[3]. Of course, I might be bi…

How can I cite thoughts in people's heads? Their opinions on why they switched? Apple did a series of commercials about switching to Macs and cited the problems in Windows. The FOSS community has been promoting GNU/Linux as an alternative to Windows for a long time now. This is common sense stuff that I shouldn't have to find a news media source on, because the news media doesn't cover that sort of stuff. Most busine…

    How can I cite thoughts in people's heads?
    Their opinions on why they switched?
NPD[1] often does research on consumer technology choices. I would've checked there for starters.

[1] https://www.npd.com/wps/portal/npd/us/home/

Re: ReactOS, a 17-year quest for an open-source Windows, has a new release candidate

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> Nobody cares about computers anymore (thanks smartphones, tablets!), and so Windows will go down the drain eventually Not holding my breath for that.

Wait....are you telling me that used a computer today? And the day before that? And the day before... Ah, you're probably behind the times and not very techy anyway.

I'm using a computer right now. I use a cellphone when I'm out, and use a tablet in bed/on the couch. I use a laptop when not home.

I use my computer to stream games on TwitchTV. I also run a Linux VM on my personal computer to run caffe for neural net things. Let's see your tablet do that...

Re: ReactOS, a 17-year quest for an open-source Windows, has a new release candidate

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Microsoft already kinda went open source, unintentionally :) http://www.opennt.net/ interesting thread documenting start of OpenNT project http://www.betaarchive.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=61&t=33250 from broken code base that would not compile to booting ~Windows 2003 compiled from source.

Avast gives me a Win32Evo Trojan warning when downloading NT 4.5 binary or ISO images. Is it a false positive or did they accidentally introduce a Trojan into the code? Anyway Avast won't let me download NT 4.5 due to a Trojan warning. So I can't test it out unless I disabled my AV. Edit: Why the downvote, scan it with Avast yourself if you don't believe me. I refuse to use it unless it is verified to not have a Troj…

Antiviruses are useless and you probably shouldn't be using one in 2015. Run the ISO in a VM if you don't trust it. (I didn't downvote you.)

Re: ReactOS, a 17-year quest for an open-source Windows, has a new release candidate

#55

A serious question: When will we see a truly new OS built from the ground up? If there is a space where there seems to be little innovation it is in the space of new OS paradigms. Flavors of Windows or Linux - are there really any commercially ready alternatives today or in the very near future?

New operating systems are still being created. Barrelfish[0] for example is quite promising. The "commercially ready" part is much more challenging.

[0] http://www.barrelfish.org/

Re: ReactOS, a 17-year quest for an open-source Windows, has a new release candidate

#56

A serious question: When will we see a truly new OS built from the ground up? If there is a space where there seems to be little innovation it is in the space of new OS paradigms. Flavors of Windows or Linux - are there really any commercially ready alternatives today or in the very near future?

Haiku comes to mind. It's an open source reimplementation of BeOS. Unfortunately it's still alpha like ReactOS.

Re: ReactOS, a 17-year quest for an open-source Windows, has a new release candidate

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post #53

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Wait....are you telling me that used a computer today? And the day before that? And the day before... Ah, you're probably behind the times and not very techy anyway.

I'm using a computer right now. I use a cellphone when I'm out, and use a tablet in bed/on the couch. I use a laptop when not home. I use my computer to stream games on TwitchTV. I also run a Linux VM on my personal computer to run caffe for neural net things. Let's see your tablet do that...

Tablets are computers.

Re: ReactOS, a 17-year quest for an open-source Windows, has a new release candidate

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I've thought this as well. I agree there's value in aiming too-high, but the amount of effort which has gone into ReactOS would have served Wine really well.

There's a ton of shared code between Wine and ReactOS. They are rather complementary.

Only 5%

Re: ReactOS, a 17-year quest for an open-source Windows, has a new release candidate

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This is one OS I've kept my eye on forever, though it feels as though Microsoft will go open source before ReactOS can catch up if anything. I wouldn't mind if certain parts of Windows were open sourced, or replaced by open sourced alternatives at least, not all of Windows. We saw this happen to the Open Live Writer.

Microsoft already kinda went open source, unintentionally :) http://www.opennt.net/ interesting thread documenting start of OpenNT project http://www.betaarchive.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=61&t=33250 from broken code base that would not compile to booting ~Windows 2003 compiled from source.

What's the license of that?

Re: ReactOS, a 17-year quest for an open-source Windows, has a new release candidate

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I've always been strangely fascinated by this project. I don't understand it. I appreciate the technical skill involved, and the amount of effort expended. But, I can't imagine working on it. From my perspective, Windows is an inferior system to any UNIX-based system on almost every front. It has a very strong application ecosystem, but technically it's unpleasant to work on (for me). So, given that, if there's somet…

Some people (like me) have invested a lot of effort learning how to use Windows. Some of those aren't particularly interested in technical superiority. The just want to use a computer in the sufficiently good way that they already know. Personally, I find Linux difficult to approach, because of the overhead involved in just getting back to my current level of proficiency. If I needed to learn it for a job, I would. I…

Could you give your opinion on Win8/8.1/Metro/Modern ? How would you rate its effect on your proficiency?
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