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Fed Ends Zero-Rate Era

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Re: Fed Ends Zero-Rate Era

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Curious if anyone knows what is the average VC fund return for the time-span of 2010-2015 for the past five years? Suppose if Fed plan to gradually raise interest rates to 2.0% to 2016 year's end; and with that corporate investment bonds, municipal bonds yield also rising to match and go beyond that baseline. Then, how attractive would VC funds be for mutual and pension funds in relation to other investment alternati…

The mode return for VC funds is, and will always be, a net loss.

Re: Fed Ends Zero-Rate Era

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Fed raising interest rates 0.25% and setting a goal of "normal" 2% by 2018 means little to nothing. Market already priced the miniscule rate hike in as the move was widely expected, and move did nothing to assure markets that the Fed is in control, or set credible, measurable goals for future hikes. Fed can continue to push on the supply side of money at the bank/institutional level all it wants. We need the Federal…

Why do you say "fed can push the supply side of money". By raising rates, the fed is decreasing the money supply.

Unless I've seriously misinterpreted your comment, this really shouldn't be the top comment, because it's wrong.

And "markets pricing in" the move isn't the same as "the move had no effect". It just means the effect already started prior to the announcement.

Re: Fed Ends Zero-Rate Era

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Analysis from TD on how banks (Wells Fargo, US Bankcorp, JPMorgan, M&T, PNC, Citi) rushed to hike the prime rate to 3.50%, and forgot to increase the deposit rate:

As CNBC reported [1], "a change in the federal funds rate will have no impact on the interest rates on existing fixed-rate mortgage and other fixed-rate consumer loans, a Wells Fargo representative told CNBC. Existing home equity lines of credit, credit cards and other consumer loans with variable interest rates tied to the prime rate will be impacted if the prime rate rises, the person said."

The good news: the rates on mortgages, auto loans or college tuition aren't expected to jump anytime soon, according to AP, although in time those will rise as well unless the long-end of the curve flattens even more than the 25 bps increase on the short end.

What about the other end of the question: the interest banks pay on deposits? Well, no rush there:

"We won't automatically change deposit rates because they aren't tied directly to the prime," a JPMorgan Chase spokesperson told CNBC. "We'll continue to monitor the market to make sure we stay competitive."

Bottom line: for those who carry a balance on their credit cards, their interest payment is about to increase. Meanwhile, those who have savings at US banks, please don't hold your breath to see any increase on the meager interest said deposits earn: after all banks are still flooded with about $2.5 trillion in excess reserves, which means that the last thing banks care about is being competitive when attracting deposits.

[1] http://www.cnbc.com/2015/12/16/wells-fargo-bank-announced-we...

Re: Fed Ends Zero-Rate Era

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Rising interest rates also mean that house prices should drop (or deaccelerate), right? Compared to without the policy change (not necessarily compared to before the policy change, though implications of the latter type are frequently treated as if they were of the former type) higher interest rates should mean (with the common assumptions about the dynamics of the rest of the market) both lower prices and fewer sa…

I think the big question though is that in super hot markets like SF and the Peninsula, will the demand actually go down enough to slow things? There's a LOT of all cash offers still coming in from overseas. Sure they might have less competition, but I feel like the aggregate demand is so massive and available supply is so restricted (in large part due to Prop 13) that even higher interest rates wouldn't put a big da…

> There's a LOT of all cash offers still coming in from overseas.

Not as many as you think. Saw this the other day:

The San Francisco and San Jose metro areas ranked ninth and sixth from the bottom, with all-cash deals representing only 28 and 24 percent of purchases, respectively. All-cash sales in San Francisco peaked at 36 percent in the first quarter of 2010, Zillow said.

http://www.sfchronicle.com/business/networth/article/All-cas...

(I agree that the dynamic won't change much though.)

Re: Fed Ends Zero-Rate Era

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Analysis from TD on how banks (Wells Fargo, US Bankcorp, JPMorgan, M&T, PNC, Citi) rushed to hike the prime rate to 3.50%, and forgot to increase the deposit rate: As CNBC reported [1], "a change in the federal funds rate will have no impact on the interest rates on existing fixed-rate mortgage and other fixed-rate consumer loans, a Wells Fargo representative told CNBC. Existing home equity lines of credit, credit ca…

> Existing home equity lines of credit, credit cards and other consumer loans with variable interest rates tied to the prime rate will be impacted if the prime rate rises, the person said.

> "We won't automatically change deposit rates because they aren't tied directly to the prime," a JPMorgan Chase spokesperson told CNBC. "We'll continue to monitor the market to make sure we stay competitive."

Heads I win, tails you lose.

Re: Fed Ends Zero-Rate Era

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Supply and demand are entwined in a perpetual dance, and "if you build it they will come" only goes so far. A product has to find a market capable of making the purchase. Opening a Whole Foods supermarket in rural Tanzania isn't going to boost sales of Tom's of Maine Wicked Cool Toothpaste -- a product apparently worthy of exchange among sufficiently wealthy consumers in a different context.

Malinvestment in incorrect production is part of the process. The person who produces unwanted goods and services must gain the feedback that they have, so they can switch production to what is desired. This is a very important reason why crony capitalism, protectionism and secession regulation hurts everyone. I have never stated that 'if you build it they will come', because that is patently false. This is a common…

You're arguing that a glut is due to producing what is not desired, instead of what is desired. So when there is a glut in one area, there must be corresponding shortages in other areas. This is easy to debunk.

Look at the labor market. The US unemployment rate went from ~4.5% in 2007 to 10% in 2010: a big labor glut. The "malinvestment" theory predicts unfulfilled demand comparable in size to the unemployment. Large sectors of the economy should have had millions of unfilled job listings, spiraling wages, etc. But this did not happen.

The right explanation is simply that total labor supply exceeded demand.

Re: Fed Ends Zero-Rate Era

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Nah, it's actually pretty easy. The 535 people just need to assign general priorities, like spend a third our country's money on health care and education, a third of it on infrastructure, a little bit on funding pure research, and whatever's left over, the military can have. They're not in charge of deciding how each individual dollar is spent, and they shouldn't be.

This is super naive. For much of the past decade, congress could have removed the entire discretionary budget (yes, including the military) and still had a deficit. The deficit is driven by social security, medicare, and medicaid. If you want to balance the budget, you have to reform those.

> The deficit is driven by social security, medicare, and medicaid. If you want to balance the budget, you have to reform those.

Or increase taxes? Social security taxation is limited to the first ~$120K of someone's income. Why?

Re: Fed Ends Zero-Rate Era

#188

Analysis from TD on how banks (Wells Fargo, US Bankcorp, JPMorgan, M&T, PNC, Citi) rushed to hike the prime rate to 3.50%, and forgot to increase the deposit rate: As CNBC reported [1], "a change in the federal funds rate will have no impact on the interest rates on existing fixed-rate mortgage and other fixed-rate consumer loans, a Wells Fargo representative told CNBC. Existing home equity lines of credit, credit ca…

There is a sticky price effect, but interest rates on savings accounts will inevitably rise as the prime rate increases, as banks compete with each other for customer business. Yes there will be lag time, but it will happen.

Re: Fed Ends Zero-Rate Era

#189

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So, the alternative is what? Allow wages to move toward zero? Then what?

A global minimum income. Or the strictly-superior-to-a-minimum-wage Earned Income Tax Credit [1]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earned_income_tax_credit

Why is it superior? That looks a lot like making the government subsidize worker exploitation.

Re: Fed Ends Zero-Rate Era

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Fed raising interest rates 0.25% and setting a goal of "normal" 2% by 2018 means little to nothing. Market already priced the miniscule rate hike in as the move was widely expected, and move did nothing to assure markets that the Fed is in control, or set credible, measurable goals for future hikes. Fed can continue to push on the supply side of money at the bank/institutional level all it wants. We need the Federal…

> We need the Federal government to stimulate aggregate demand at the consumer level. Investing tax dollars in a smarter manner. Isn't it highly unlikely that tax dollars will be spent or invested more wisely than the original owners of those dollars would have spent or invested them, since no-one would have known the owners' preferences as well as the owners themselves? Keynesian pump-priming ends up thinking it mak…

Your paragraph on Keynes is a very common misrepresentation of his policies. Keynes was very clear that he wanted the government to offset the private sector. So if the economy was strong he expected the government to reduce spending least they lead to overheating. If the private sector was weak he expected the government to step in and try and offset that weakness. So it's nigh impossible for government spending to be a drag on the economy because it's only there in force due to the absence of private investment.
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