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I included emoji in my password and now I can't log in to my Account on Yosemite

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Re: I included emoji in my password and now I can't log in to my Account on Yosemite

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I have had something similar bite me, although mine was easily fixed. I used swedish (åäö) characters for my disk encryption password. This worked fine, until I did a dist-upgrade and had my boot keyboard reset to US QWERTY (using a custom swedish version of capewell-dvorak). The solution for me was to stick on LTS distros.

A similar problem is having a UK pound sign (£) or double quotes (") in your password. These are mapped differently in UK and US keyboards, and £ is sometimes not easily available at all.

Re: I included emoji in my password and now I can't log in to my Account on Yosemite

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A client once had an issue where his account got compromised and everything pointed to having his actual login details leaked. His password was something like his username plus an assortment of random characters. It turned out that the system his account was on basically ignored everything after the 8th character, so that you were able to login with the username as the password. Also, during the early days of inline…

That's how Schwab.com implements passwords. 8 characters max. For life savings brokerage accounts.

*Handled

They now support 200+ character passwords.

Re: I included emoji in my password and now I can't log in to my Account on Yosemite

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Such problems are the reason why I never use anything but ASCII letters as passwords (if the system doesn't enforce arbitrary password policies). I'd rather have a longer ASCII-only password than a shorter one I might not be able to input. There's also the issue that often you are not sure what keyboard layout is current enabled and even such unsuspicious characters like ! or # are on completely different locations o…

> ... have you ever had a look at a French keyboard layout?

My favorite one is Russian. I understand Cyrillic characters, but their positions are just completely messed up.

Re: I included emoji in my password and now I can't log in to my Account on Yosemite

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A client once had an issue where his account got compromised and everything pointed to having his actual login details leaked. His password was something like his username plus an assortment of random characters. It turned out that the system his account was on basically ignored everything after the 8th character, so that you were able to login with the username as the password. Also, during the early days of inline…

There's a lot of crap out there: http://www.troyhunt.com/2011/01/whos-who-of-bad-password-pra... It's common when there's a web interface bridging directly into a legacy mainframe system built in the 70s. That's how you see things like "your password can't contain Q or Z" (it was originally a rotary phone-dial interface and ancient US phones didn't have Q or Z[0] — to say nothing of special characters, this means the…

> think your password is "fido"? it's actually encoded as 3436)

A form of hashing... ⸮

Re: I included emoji in my password and now I can't log in to my Account on Yosemite

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There's a lot of crap out there: http://www.troyhunt.com/2011/01/whos-who-of-bad-password-pra... It's common when there's a web interface bridging directly into a legacy mainframe system built in the 70s. That's how you see things like "your password can't contain Q or Z" (it was originally a rotary phone-dial interface and ancient US phones didn't have Q or Z[0] — to say nothing of special characters, this means the…

VirginMedia (large ISP in the UK) won't accept passwords longer than 10 characters. No spaces or special characters allowed, must contain a number, must start with a letter etc.

What is really frustrating about this is when I asked them why they reply "we've chosen these limits to make sure your online password is secure"

Re: I included emoji in my password and now I can't log in to my Account on Yosemite

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You try to make things idiot-proof and they bring in better idiots.

1) The user tried to see if emoji can be used for the password.

2) Without checking on the web/forums/etc first.

3) On their main user account (not a disposable one).

4) With FileVault turned on.

I can't even...

Re: I included emoji in my password and now I can't log in to my Account on Yosemite

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I know of an online store that if you use a + in your email address, will fail to charge you for any goods you order. I'm assuming because something somewhere on their backend assumes that '+' is an invalid email character and refuses to process the job. This is unbelievably common.

I had all kinds of trouble trouble with my abc@firstname.lastname.name mailadress. Some did not recognize .name. Others had trouble with the third level domain. Sometimes the sign-up worked but something in the backend broke...

I can't even change my email adress to my .me domain on facebook because they keep telling me it's an invalid domain ending.

Re: I included emoji in my password and now I can't log in to my Account on Yosemite

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Interesting. I would love to hear more details, like how much traffic you are bringing in total from these mini-apps and how much income from Adsense.

I have two books in my queue actually, and this is one of them. There are parts of my content-property model I'm not ready to share, but most of it has been structured into a cohesive framework of how I: 1. find niches 2. automate site creation 3. optimize w/ gpt (google publisher tag) I'm sorry to say I won't be releasing that first... The first is due within the next 12-14 days, after which it should take me 1-2 mo…

Thanks for the reply. Does site creation involve pure content sites as well as simple web apps? Or maybe some kind of hybrid for SEO purposes?

I would love to read more once you have something published. You should consider adding some contact info in your profile so that people won't go on a stalking expedition to find you (as i did) :)

Re: I included emoji in my password and now I can't log in to my Account on Yosemite

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Such problems are the reason why I never use anything but ASCII letters as passwords (if the system doesn't enforce arbitrary password policies). I'd rather have a longer ASCII-only password than a shorter one I might not be able to input. There's also the issue that often you are not sure what keyboard layout is current enabled and even such unsuspicious characters like ! or # are on completely different locations o…

I got bit by this problem before. I wrote a one liner to avoid generating passwords where the keyboard might be an issue [1]. 1. http://www.tillett.info/2013/05/29/letters-to-avoid-in-creat...

As somebody who uses numerous keyboard layouts on a daily basis, this is an interesting idea!

I wonder how hard it'd be to make a script where you specify which keyboard layouts you're likely to encounter and it finds the common symbols...

Of course, if you specify dvorak it'd wreck everything :)

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