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I included emoji in my password and now I can't log in to my Account on Yosemite

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Re: I included emoji in my password and now I can't log in to my Account on Yosemite

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I'm baffled that the standard US keyboard layout doesn't even have the ° character, something I use all the time.

It does have that character. Press Option-Shift-8.

The same Option key that isn't on the standard US layout either?

Re: I included emoji in my password and now I can't log in to my Account on Yosemite

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I tried that. The LUKS password screen did not support it.

LUKS does not really have a password screen. It must have been your X-window session or terminal emulator that did not support it. LUKS can handle it!

It was actually neither, most probably. Rather, a prompt generated by https://wiki.freedesktop.org/www/Software/Plymouth/

Re: I included emoji in my password and now I can't log in to my Account on Yosemite

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I have had something similar bite me, although mine was easily fixed. I used swedish (åäö) characters for my disk encryption password. This worked fine, until I did a dist-upgrade and had my boot keyboard reset to US QWERTY (using a custom swedish version of capewell-dvorak). The solution for me was to stick on LTS distros.

I'm pretty sure the standard US layout offers more than enough symbols to write an excellent password. I tend to prefer extremely long passwords/phrases over things that require stupid characters (had trouble with WiFi keys using the French "é" back in 2008, all my passwords are ASCII since)

I had to use a system once that accepted the "stupid characters" ( and ) in the password on account creation, but not on login...

Re: I included emoji in my password and now I can't log in to my Account on Yosemite

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A client once had an issue where his account got compromised and everything pointed to having his actual login details leaked. His password was something like his username plus an assortment of random characters. It turned out that the system his account was on basically ignored everything after the 8th character, so that you were able to login with the username as the password. Also, during the early days of inline…

Solaris, an otherwise good quality enterprise operating system, had an 8-character limit just like that for decades. They only fixed it in the default configuration maybe five years ago. You can read about it here: http://blog.mc-thias.org/?title=solaris-10-password-length-l...

Re: I included emoji in my password and now I can't log in to my Account on Yosemite

#46
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Swedbank in Sweden have a feature where you can access an accounts entire balance by generating random CC#'s for online shopping and this service is protected by your social security number, a 6 character password, a-z, 0-9 and no special characters allowed. They've had this for at least 6 years now, maybe longer. Early on when I e-mailed them about it they simply stated that it's not their service, in other words; o…

Swedish social security numbers are public information btw, just to clarify the insanity - I can call in to the government register and ask for anyone's number, there isn't even any obfuscation or semi-privacy about it like US SSNs.

there isn't even any obfuscation or semi-privacy about it like US SSNs.

GOOD. The US "private" SSN system is completely messed up. You can't commit identity theft by just knowing a personnummer. Very, very much unlike the US...

Re: I included emoji in my password and now I can't log in to my Account on Yosemite

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Hmm. Not really related, but now that it seems to be fixed - I discovered that using an equals sign in your name was enough to be "locked out" of Airbnb - it wrecked the cookie & every page would return 403. No bug bounty though haha. Guess it wasn't enough of an "attack vector" to try and convince someone to change their name.

I know of an online store that if you use a + in your email address, will fail to charge you for any goods you order.

I'm assuming because something somewhere on their backend assumes that '+' is an invalid email character and refuses to process the job. This is unbelievably common.

Re: I included emoji in my password and now I can't log in to my Account on Yosemite

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post #26

Such problems are the reason why I never use anything but ASCII letters as passwords (if the system doesn't enforce arbitrary password policies). I'd rather have a longer ASCII-only password than a shorter one I might not be able to input. There's also the issue that often you are not sure what keyboard layout is current enabled and even such unsuspicious characters like ! or # are on completely different locations o…

I got bit one time at work by setting a password as "$foo", instead of "foo$" or "fo$o" ... turns out the password-setting script was written in perl and Strange Things happened where only some systems got updated but not others.

Honestly, probably exploitable now that I'm thinking about it... I'll have to stop by the security group and give them something to chew on over the holidays.

Re: I included emoji in my password and now I can't log in to my Account on Yosemite

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post #4

A client once had an issue where his account got compromised and everything pointed to having his actual login details leaked. His password was something like his username plus an assortment of random characters. It turned out that the system his account was on basically ignored everything after the 8th character, so that you were able to login with the username as the password. Also, during the early days of inline…

There's a lot of crap out there: http://www.troyhunt.com/2011/01/whos-who-of-bad-password-pra... It's common when there's a web interface bridging directly into a legacy mainframe system built in the 70s. That's how you see things like "your password can't contain Q or Z" (it was originally a rotary phone-dial interface and ancient US phones didn't have Q or Z[0] — to say nothing of special characters, this means the…

Try to create a password at Jet2.com. A Password like: "SuperSecretPassword!" gives you an error "Your password must be at least six characters or more and is case sensitive.". It's idiotic.

Re: I included emoji in my password and now I can't log in to my Account on Yosemite

#50

Hmm. Not really related, but now that it seems to be fixed - I discovered that using an equals sign in your name was enough to be "locked out" of Airbnb - it wrecked the cookie & every page would return 403. No bug bounty though haha. Guess it wasn't enough of an "attack vector" to try and convince someone to change their name.

I know of an online store that if you use a + in your email address, will fail to charge you for any goods you order. I'm assuming because something somewhere on their backend assumes that '+' is an invalid email character and refuses to process the job. This is unbelievably common.

I had all kinds of trouble trouble with my abc@firstname.lastname.name mailadress. Some did not recognize .name. Others had trouble with the third level domain. Sometimes the sign-up worked but something in the backend broke...
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