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Angular 2 Beta released

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Re: Angular 2 Beta released

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Post by huuu »

bmm6o wrote: post #166
debaserab2 wrote: post #150

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> ReactJS has slaughtered the front-end market share (in a good way) and completely taken develo Do you have a citation for that? I still see tons of user land projects using angular 1.

Yeah, you're right not to trust statements about projects "capturing mind share" and what is "really hot right now" (not intending to quote OP). People get into their little communities and don't realize that they are not at all representative of the larger world. To make something up, I can totally believe that React is really popular in the San Diego startup scene, but it's a mistake to extrapolate that too far in…

This is very true. A lot of people also forget that a ton of stuff that is developed never shows up in your favorite search engine. Intranets, internal apps, and so on.

Re: Angular 2 Beta released

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Post by joelhooks »

morley wrote: post #69

I'm curious what Angular 2 is like for developers who normally write React? I hear 2 is a lot better than 1, but I'm still turned off by the amount of Angular-specific terminology, whereas most of React terminology is not necessarily React-specific.

I've spent a lot of time with Angular 2 (alpha)[0] and React (redux flavored).

All in all it is fairly similar, and feels pretty good. You have to remember more syntax, because of the configuration, but it isn't as conceptually difficult as Angular 1.x

The templating syntax is "weird", and it definitely adds to the list of things you have to know specific to Angular 2.

React and JSX is nice because logic is just JS, and not special template syntax (directives).

I'd be happy to build an app with Angular 2 or React for different reasons. What's hard is looking at Angular 1 now.

[0] I've given multiple Angular 2 workshops, built large scale Angular 1 apps, and build React components daily for my business (a popular web developer video tutorial site).

Re: Angular 2 Beta released

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Post by mateuszf »

mercurial wrote: post #196
jbeja wrote: post #178

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Well React approach of composition has reach even others programming languages and communities and with things like redux and react-hot-loader is a game changer.

> things like redux and react-hot-loader is a game changer. Totally not inspired by Elm and traditional FRP. I mean, I use it daily and it's great, but you have to realize that a lot of what React brings to the front is bundling some well-known paradigms together.

True, but in comparison to typical, common javascript development workflows (using tools like backbone and angular) - it is a game changer.

Re: Angular 2 Beta released

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Post by sandGorgon »

VeilEm wrote: post #199
sandGorgon wrote: post #185

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Yes you can! We are using requirejs, babel,es6 to have a react setup that runs completely in the browser. But for some reason, react makes this information really obscure. It works really well. Including breakpoints in chrome,etc.

It might work for developing, but I don't think it works well for people actually using it, it's too slow.

which is actually my point - running it this way helps us do a lot of beta testing internally,etc. Obviously this is not a production strategy, but the way we have written code (with requirejs) is that we can switch between them.

I really hope that React makes this more public - it makes it for quick and dirty prototyping. P.S. love ES6. Performance be damned!!

Re: Angular 2 Beta released

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Post by rsuelzer »

I use both react and angular. At work we lean toward angular because of the overhead of having to train design teams with no real JavaScript backgrounds how to work with jsx.

That being said, I use both react and angular. Angular is a full library that solves all of my problems, even if the solution isn't what I would consider ideal. React forces me to do a lot more work to get something running as it is not a framework. It is a tradeoff of time versus flexibility.

Re: Angular 2 Beta released

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Post by JoshMnem »

paublyrne wrote: post #85

I am in Germany and this link forces a redirect to angularjs.blogspot.de because of my location (which is a version of the blog in German, which I don't read). No simple way around this, and no link I can see to go to .com instead. That's quite frustrating.

Try http://angularjs.blogspot.de/?hl=en

If that doesn't work, try a private tab so that it doesn't use any previously-set cookies:

Firefox: ctrl-shift-p

Chrome: ctrl-shift-n

Re: Angular 2 Beta released

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Post by Offler »

VeilEm wrote: post #156
joshfraser wrote: post #154

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I just checked Datanyze which crawls the Alexa 1m and more to see which services & libraries websites are using. They've detected 234,003 sites using Angular and 2,069 using React.

I think Angular is more accessible than React. I don't think React will be adopted as much by non-engineers. React is usually used alongside significant tooling like babel and webpack/browserify and some flux library. It's probably more complex. You can't just drop some js script file in your HTML document and go with that. I say that as someone who thinks React is the future of JavaScript development and there's no…

Angular 2 also requires that level of tooling (both allow you to use ES5 and don't require tooling but most devs won't use them like that).

Re: Angular 2 Beta released

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Post by bundyo »

pil4rin wrote: post #19
aikah wrote: post #12

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How is NativeScript related to AngularJS ? is it the same team ?

No, NativeScript is a Telerik product. Angular is a Google/ Open Source project. I'm not sure how they are related, I haven't seen anyone use the two in conjunction.

There are some samples available, for instance this one: https://github.com/NativeScript/sample-ng-todomvc

Re: Angular 2 Beta released

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Post by lisivka »

sandGorgon wrote: post #204
VeilEm wrote: post #199

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It might work for developing, but I don't think it works well for people actually using it, it's too slow.

which is actually my point - running it this way helps us do a lot of beta testing internally,etc. Obviously this is not a production strategy, but the way we have written code (with requirejs) is that we can switch between them. I really hope that React makes this more public - it makes it for quick and dirty prototyping. P.S. love ES6. Performance be damned!!

Care to share your setup? I.e. minimal todo-like application with both direct development and with compilation for production site.

Re: Angular 2 Beta released

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Post by Zombieball »

DigitalSea wrote: post #160
debaserab2 wrote: post #150

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> ReactJS has slaughtered the front-end market share (in a good way) and completely taken develo Do you have a citation for that? I still see tons of user land projects using angular 1.

I am not talking about market share, I am more referring to sentiment in the community towards React. Just based on my observations, front-end developers love React and many more seemingly warming up to it. Considering React is still a new library, give it some time, but it does not take a trend to see that it is gaining popularity while Angular 1.x has peaked in my opinion and 2.0 will take a lot of convincing to ge…

I completely share your sentiments. I am currently an Angular 1.X guy myself with limited knowledge of React. However given the little knowledge I have of React vs. Angular 2.X I find it more likely my team would migrate to React than Angular 2 (doubly so considering the benefits offered by React native).
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