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I included emoji in my password and now I can't log in to my Account on Yosemite

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Re: I included emoji in my password and now I can't log in to my Account on Yosemite

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Post by TwoBit »

OSButler wrote: post #4

A client once had an issue where his account got compromised and everything pointed to having his actual login details leaked. His password was something like his username plus an assortment of random characters. It turned out that the system his account was on basically ignored everything after the 8th character, so that you were able to login with the username as the password. Also, during the early days of inline…

That's how Schwab.com implements passwords. 8 characters max. For life savings brokerage accounts.

Re: I included emoji in my password and now I can't log in to my Account on Yosemite

#12

Post by moviuro »

Johnny_Brahms wrote: post #2

I have had something similar bite me, although mine was easily fixed. I used swedish (åäö) characters for my disk encryption password. This worked fine, until I did a dist-upgrade and had my boot keyboard reset to US QWERTY (using a custom swedish version of capewell-dvorak). The solution for me was to stick on LTS distros.

I'm pretty sure the standard US layout offers more than enough symbols to write an excellent password.

I tend to prefer extremely long passwords/phrases over things that require stupid characters (had trouble with WiFi keys using the French "é" back in 2008, all my passwords are ASCII since)

Re: I included emoji in my password and now I can't log in to my Account on Yosemite

#13

Post by INTPenis »

TwoBit wrote: post #11
OSButler wrote: post #4

A client once had an issue where his account got compromised and everything pointed to having his actual login details leaked. His password was something like his username plus an assortment of random characters. It turned out that the system his account was on basically ignored everything after the 8th character, so that you were able to login with the username as the password. Also, during the early days of inline…

That's how Schwab.com implements passwords. 8 characters max. For life savings brokerage accounts.

Swedbank in Sweden have a feature where you can access an accounts entire balance by generating random CC#'s for online shopping and this service is protected by your social security number, a 6 character password, a-z, 0-9 and no special characters allowed.

They've had this for at least 6 years now, maybe longer. Early on when I e-mailed them about it they simply stated that it's not their service, in other words; out-sourced.

Re: I included emoji in my password and now I can't log in to my Account on Yosemite

#14

Post by j42 »

biot wrote: post #7
BorisMelnik wrote: post #6

Was really surprised to see such a great solution and walkthrough. I had no idea Mac's had "unicode text input" software on default machines. I wonder why Window's hasn't upgraded charmap.exe over the years? Ok and hear me out on this: a startup idea based on emoji passwords that encodes/decodes emojis into their hex/binary equivalent. takers?

> a startup idea based on emoji passwords that encodes/decodes > emojis into their hex/binary equivalent. Is "startup" now synonymous with "thing that I built in 2 hours and have no ability to monetize"?

Well, "startup" is a poor choice of words, but he actually has a half-decent idea.

As someone who owns dozens of little "tool" sites (think less/scss converters, meme generators, JS beautifiers, etc), I can tell you each is probably 1-2 pages, took an hour to build and thankfully due to some domain squatting (kw in domain) and a low bounce rate I don't have to worry much about SEO.

As for the Adsense revenue, I think you'd be quite surprised.

One is an afternoon, not a startup idea.

50, on the other hand, could be passive income for a very long time.

Just something to consider before jumping to negativity. ;)

Re: I included emoji in my password and now I can't log in to my Account on Yosemite

#15

Post by nizmow »

biot wrote: post #7
BorisMelnik wrote: post #6

Was really surprised to see such a great solution and walkthrough. I had no idea Mac's had "unicode text input" software on default machines. I wonder why Window's hasn't upgraded charmap.exe over the years? Ok and hear me out on this: a startup idea based on emoji passwords that encodes/decodes emojis into their hex/binary equivalent. takers?

> a startup idea based on emoji passwords that encodes/decodes > emojis into their hex/binary equivalent. Is "startup" now synonymous with "thing that I built in 2 hours and have no ability to monetize"?

Wasn't it always?

Re: I included emoji in my password and now I can't log in to my Account on Yosemite

#16

Post by emerongi »

INTPenis wrote: post #13
TwoBit wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's how Schwab.com implements passwords. 8 characters max. For life savings brokerage accounts.

Swedbank in Sweden have a feature where you can access an accounts entire balance by generating random CC#'s for online shopping and this service is protected by your social security number, a 6 character password, a-z, 0-9 and no special characters allowed. They've had this for at least 6 years now, maybe longer. Early on when I e-mailed them about it they simply stated that it's not their service, in other words; o…

Swedbank also requires two-factor authentication. You can bypasss this by calling them - they only ask for 1 thing to authenticate you. Two-factor authentication is rather useless if you can just bypass it like that.

Re: I included emoji in my password and now I can't log in to my Account on Yosemite

#17

Post by oneeyedpigeon »

moviuro wrote: post #12
Johnny_Brahms wrote: post #2

I have had something similar bite me, although mine was easily fixed. I used swedish (åäö) characters for my disk encryption password. This worked fine, until I did a dist-upgrade and had my boot keyboard reset to US QWERTY (using a custom swedish version of capewell-dvorak). The solution for me was to stick on LTS distros.

I'm pretty sure the standard US layout offers more than enough symbols to write an excellent password. I tend to prefer extremely long passwords/phrases over things that require stupid characters (had trouble with WiFi keys using the French "é" back in 2008, all my passwords are ASCII since)

Of course, characters that I use in my everyday language aren't "stupid" to me.

Re: I included emoji in my password and now I can't log in to my Account on Yosemite

#18

Post by Johnny_Brahms »

keithpeter wrote: post #9
Johnny_Brahms wrote: post #2

I have had something similar bite me, although mine was easily fixed. I used swedish (åäö) characters for my disk encryption password. This worked fine, until I did a dist-upgrade and had my boot keyboard reset to US QWERTY (using a custom swedish version of capewell-dvorak). The solution for me was to stick on LTS distros.

A quote from the Slackware README_CTYPT.txt "NOTE: if you use a non-US keyboard and need to enter a passphrase during boot, this may be problematic if the keyboard mapping is US while Slackware runs from the initrd filesystem. In this case, add support for your keyboard to the initrd image using this additional parameter to the 'mkinitrd' command above: "-l ". The string is the same as the one you select in the insta…

"May" as in "most certainly did", at least when you are lazy like me and use a GUI-centered distro.

I ended up plugging the harddrive into another computer and fixing it from there.

I never got that shit from slackware...

Re: I included emoji in my password and now I can't log in to my Account on Yosemite

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Post by Johnny_Brahms »

moviuro wrote: post #12
Johnny_Brahms wrote: post #2

I have had something similar bite me, although mine was easily fixed. I used swedish (åäö) characters for my disk encryption password. This worked fine, until I did a dist-upgrade and had my boot keyboard reset to US QWERTY (using a custom swedish version of capewell-dvorak). The solution for me was to stick on LTS distros.

I'm pretty sure the standard US layout offers more than enough symbols to write an excellent password. I tend to prefer extremely long passwords/phrases over things that require stupid characters (had trouble with WiFi keys using the French "é" back in 2008, all my passwords are ASCII since)

It was a long password phrase. One of the words just happened to be in my mother tongue.
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