Christ, they just don't get it... What we need isn't "apps for Slack" what we need is onprem Slack. Because sending confidential information to "the cloud" is all kinds of stupid and potentially violates a bunch of laws
Slack Platform Launch
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#92Christ, they just don't get it... What we need isn't "apps for Slack" what we need is onprem Slack. Because sending confidential information to "the cloud" is all kinds of stupid and potentially violates a bunch of laws
folks at atlassian (hipchat) are already doing this...it depends which markets one pursuing...slack and hipchat are totally on different scale. Atlassian even didn't make hipchat user numbers public during IPO proceedings
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#93I feel like the world has lost it's mind slightly. When a 2 year old startup launches an $80m fund. I mean I understand they want to be a platform and can see the strength in funding projects that will empower a platform model but still. This is the point at which I think we're really in a boom heading in that bubble direction, and I was never one to fall in to the trap of calling it a bubble before. Love slack, love…
> I feel like the world has lost it's mind slightly. When a 2 year old startup launches an $80m fund. Slack was founded in 2009 and has raised over $300M (yes, three hundred million dollars) [1] [1] https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/slack#/entity
Wow, what did they need 300m for? This is nuts.
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#94That's 80M against the commoditization of hosted chat. Smart way to put up barriers to entry.
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#95Every program attempts to expand until it has an app store. Those programs which cannot so expand are replaced by ones which can.
Abrkn's law was born.
Brekken's Law (assuming that's his surname from the email in his profile). It's a snowclone of Zawinski's law of software development[1]:
Every program attempts to expand until it can read mail. Those programs which cannot so expand are replaced by ones which can.
It really is true. My previous employer had a dream of turning their extremely specific web app into a platform, with an app store and everything. I assume that being a platform means big bucks, idk.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamie_Zawinski#Zawinski.27s_la...
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#96Earlier quoted context omitted.
Because the expected loss from a malicious actor with access to those logs cloning your product (without any access to the actual people who thought up your product!) is often more than balanced by the expected benefit from getting everyone on a knowledge base with a brilliant UX. Sure, you wouldn't have wanted to host the Apollo Program's lab notes on Soviet servers, but your cat selfie startup isn't quite as high-s…
> Sure, you wouldn't have wanted to host the Apollo Program's lab notes on Soviet servers, but your cat selfie startup isn't quite as high-stakes as that. I find this to be a pretty interesting comparison. To the best of my knowledge, the entire stakes of the space race were "we might lose face".
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#97Earlier quoted context omitted.
Because the expected loss from a malicious actor with access to those logs cloning your product (without any access to the actual people who thought up your product!) is often more than balanced by the expected benefit from getting everyone on a knowledge base with a brilliant UX. Sure, you wouldn't have wanted to host the Apollo Program's lab notes on Soviet servers, but your cat selfie startup isn't quite as high-s…
> Sure, you wouldn't have wanted to host the Apollo Program's lab notes on Soviet servers, but your cat selfie startup isn't quite as high-stakes as that. I find this to be a pretty interesting comparison. To the best of my knowledge, the entire stakes of the space race were "we might lose face".
That, and "Soviets are going to launch satellites loaded with nuclear weapons into space and end the cold war".
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#98Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I feel like the world has lost it's mind slightly. When a 2 year old startup launches an $80m fund. Slack was founded in 2009 and has raised over $300M (yes, three hundred million dollars) [1] [1] https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/slack#/entity
Wow, what did they need 300m for? This is nuts.
The CEO is quoted as saying "we don't need it but the terms were so good that it would be foolish to refuse the money. Also it buys safety during a downturn."
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#99I'm sorry, I've scoffed at other valuations and investments, but I'm just completely beside myself. Why does a chat room need "apps"? It's kind of weird actually. There's two sorts of people that defend these announcements, I've found: The first thinks that they are going to build an "amazing" platform some day and that they'll follow this model for "growing revenue". So of course they defend it. And then there's the…
1) Take 300m in VC money.
2) VCs want their money back
3) Pull your hair for a a while.
4) Figure out a genius plan. Now you are an ecosystem! Nobody ever thought of that. You are a true silicon valley legend!
5) Profit
Or not.
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#100I've never used Slack, but people keep saying that it's good because of the apps. What sort of apps are those?